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October 13, 2012 at 10:53 pm
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One of the biggest problems I come across with comments on my site is automation. These people not only don’t read the post, they don’t even visit the site. As a result I’m forced to moderate all comments coming in, making more work for me, and making the good commenter have to wait. Not so good for flowing conversations!
But you’re right. If more people took commenting seriously, they’d get a lot more traffic.
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August 21, 2012 at 1:55 am
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Hey Jane. You put a great light on the concept of blog commenting. But have one question . And can you tell me one thing that if i am working on the particular keyword for for example ( web design company) and i am commenting through XYZ name …as you have told that we don’t have to put our keywords in the name field as i have put down my link in the url fiyeld i have got one back link but if i put the link in url with my keyword( web design company) is it effect my keyword ranking In SERPS or not . If not then can we do the link building normally by putting any xyz name in the name field. I am aware of all the things you have discussed in your post but now my question is that if we are doing the blog commenting with our real name and putting down our url in the url field then our number of backlinks get increased. So my question is the number of links that are increasing on blog sites with our original name not with keyword . Will that links beneficial for us to improve our ranking in SERPS when some body search through related keywords that are in our source file.
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February 15, 2012 at 10:35 pm
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Hi,
It is really bad to outsource commenting however, when assigned to right people we can easily drive a lot of traffic to our blogs. I do agree that we may miss what we are when commenting is outsourced to a third party and it may not help to build good relationship other blogger.
Thanks.
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August 23, 2011 at 7:58 am
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Hey Jane,
I like the idea of rewarding good commenters with DoFollow links, so I’ll definitely look into Commentluv and Keywordluv. It seems like most of the blogs I run across just use the default Wordpress comment feature, so I can see how it gives you a competitive advantage in developing an active community of readers.
Do you find that it also increases the amount of spam comments you need to moderate?
The most common incorrect commenting strategy I deal with is irrelevant, one line comments with hyperlinks, spelling errors and bad grammar.
Speaking of which, here is one I’m sending to spam right now (without the hyperlink): “better search engine rankings bad seo backlink service get backlinks”
It’s hard to get more spammy than that…
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July 4, 2011 at 11:52 am
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Thank you, Ana! Excellent post. I learned a great deal, especially about the pipe. I’m about to install CommentLuv on my new blog now that I understand the benefits for my readers. One correction from an article at their website:
“For those of you who have been with CommentLuv for a while, you know that there used to be a registration process. Well that is no more. The member page is now gone from the CommentLuv site, you can still log in to your profile and submit guest posts and update your contact information but there is no longer a member page where you register your URL to be a CommentLuv commentator, that is in the past my friends. Welcome to the new CommentLuv.”
Also, there is no more need to unban. Again from their site: “The Unban page is no longer needed! No one gets banned any more, if you’re having problems when you comment on commentluv enabled sites then visit the help desk by clicking the link in the toolbar above.”
Hope that helps!
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June 18, 2011 at 5:40 am
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Thanks Jane and Ana for this useful discussion on blog commenting flops. My aim is to always leave some value behind for the blogger who has given me a chance to enter the debate. That value comes through:
1) Activity on the blog (Google looks at activity in determining ranking)
2) Keywords within the comment stream that match what the blog post is about (notice my first sentence)
3) Feedback on what the author has written (what blogger doesn’t love useful comments?)
4) Additional opinions and tips to square the argument and give even more visibility and credibility to the blog.You are being given love for your comments – make sure you return it and your comment strategy will pay-off.
Thoughtless commenting will ruin your credibility in the eyes of the blogging community who work hard to share useful and valuable knowledge.
Best wishes
Andy
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June 8, 2011 at 9:18 pm
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Hey Jane,
Just wanted to thank you for coming up with this wonderful blog post! I must say that I’ve learnt quite a few golden nuggets here like the point on commentluv! I just realized there’s a tiny arrow on the right hand side that allows me to select which of my past 10 blog posts I wish to show on my blog comment! The next point that I’ve learnt is also whether to put a “www” or not to put one… I usually place none when I’m just placing my domain, but I add a www when I’m including the full URL for my blog posts, do you know if that’s alright?
Definitely have to agree with you on the blog commenting.. I’ve had a couple of people who try to get backlinks to their pages and just post a one-liner thinking I would accept their comment… Although the number of comments may look nice, it would dilute my page rank (if I had any!) and those comments don’t really add any value!
Thanks for sharing this post cause I’ve learnt a huge load!
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May 19, 2011 at 9:06 pm
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Thanks! Ana and Thank you Jane,
for giving the lowdown on how to use these plug-ins correctly. I actually learned about commentluv yesterday, figured out how to get unbanned and today I downloaded and activated keywordluv.And when I do comments, I usually put my name, a dash and my occupation. As I read over using a separator instead of the @ or even a dash, it just looks better to me because I want to start dialog with fellow bloggers comfortably.
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May 6, 2011 at 5:05 am
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Hey Jane,
Congratulations on your guest post here!
Solid points you’re sharing here. Blog commenting is very powerful if you’re executing it the right way, as you have pointed out. It’s all about following the commenting etiquette if you want to get your name out there and generate traffic too!
Thanks for sharing your insights, Jane.
All the best,
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May 5, 2011 at 2:09 am
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Though they were simple tips, they are very helpful for those who are just into the business of blogging. At this juncture, I would like to mention that I have started using the | separator without even knowing how Google reads it. I now feel elated on getting the knowledge of |.
- Ranjith
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May 4, 2011 at 5:56 pm
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Didn’t know about the “|” separator, this is my first time using it! My nickname is Copywriting Dean, so I typically use that without a problem.
And I don’t know about 90% of blogs using Comment Luv. I see a good amount in the blogging/IM niche, but most blogs I see don’t use it. Cheers!
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May 4, 2011 at 10:54 am
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Jane, I loved your tip about registering CommentLuv. Just when I thought I had most things down pat, up crops something new for me to learn.
It seems so ridiculous to bother commenting without reading. I have actually responded to some comments when it’s obvious they haven’t read the post and asked what they liked best about such and such. I’ve never hear back from anyone.
Thanks for the thorough post – up to Ana’s standards.
Connie
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May 4, 2011 at 7:35 am
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Hi Jane,
Congratulations on guest posting on this fine blog! Thanks to Ana, I have implemented these tips you mention. She and others have also shown me the manners of blog commenting, and how to handle you own comments. Have fun answering the many comments you’ll be getting for this concise guide on this topic.
Lou Barba
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May 4, 2011 at 5:26 am
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I totally love commentluv, it’s a great plug in. Thanks for pointing out Keywordluv, i’m of to investigate it
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May 4, 2011 at 5:23 am
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Many people that comment on blogs are also blog owners themselves, so they can probably understand the frustration of useless comments. I have to regularly go and manage some of the comments that are left on my blog.
If someone only includes keywords (no name) in a comment, I usually delete it (I don’t have KeywordLuv installed, although I am thinking of using it).
Outsourcing comments is a new, a bad, way of commenting. Usually the comments can be found on about 20 blogs, which is a dead give-away as being outsourced. I usually blacklist the site if I find such a commenter.
I think the biggest thing to remember, which you touched on, is that your reputation as a blogger is at stake each time you comment. If you known to write useless comments, than your reputation will take a hit, and you will eventually lose readers and traffic.
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May 24, 2011 at 4:10 am
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Yes this happens because the person you outsourced the job is too lazy to type a new comment every time. So if they have a gig of 100 comments they write about 5 – 10 unique comments and spread them on various blogs. I have seen such funny things.
Jane.
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May 4, 2011 at 4:47 am
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Hi Jane,
There are many newbies who really don’t know the benefit of commentluv and don’t use it in a better way. I hope if someone who is unaware about the benefits about commentluv then he/she would start using it properly.
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May 4, 2011 at 2:24 am
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I have been using DoFollow+CommentLuv+KeywordLuv since several months so I must agree with you on all the line.
Additionally, I have 1 more “do” and one more “don’t” to suggest.
First of all, do implement a way to notify your commenters when you reply to them. This encourages engagement since people will know their comments are appreciated.
Second, don’t moderate your comments! That’s in my opinion a huge mistake since you should at least trust your commenters if you want to receive their opinions. -
May 3, 2011 at 7:23 pm
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Solid points Jane and it is true that many people use commenting only for the sake of SEO benefits. Some don’t even think of the fact that they may be tagged as spammers and caught by akismet. In vary rare conditions, and unless I have the time, I normally just hit the “empty spam folder” as it gets easily filled with “trackbacks”, something I do not like very much. I agree with you that commenting should be used as a form to interact with the blogger and form relationships. “buying” 100 comments for $5 is never a wise idea as most likely it will hurt you more than doing good.
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May 3, 2011 at 6:51 pm
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Jane,
I also wondered why people are registered with com luv yet they do not have com luv installed on their own blog. Really mind-boggling to me.All of my regular commenters leave awesome commenting feedback for me. I do get the occasional straggler that leaves a,” wow great post man” comment.
If you have a blog, and you comment, then you must have a Gravatar with your actual picture on it.
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May 3, 2011 at 1:07 pm
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Outsourcing comments is pretty laughable! It’s like “here- go tell some people I like their post.” Sheesh!
I didn’t know about KeywordLUV. Very interesting!
I do use CommentLuv and I’ve found many great blogs that way by seeing it on other sites.
I wrote a post about bad commenting geared specifically towards blogging moms. I called it Comment Vomit- ha!
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May 3, 2011 at 12:43 pm
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Thanks for going past the common sense tips, Jane. I must have missed Ana’s post talking about the pipe on non-KWL sites. I’m just in the habit of using the @ now. I’ll have to watch that from now on.
I also wasn’t aware that people were outsourcing their own comments. I knew people would buy comments for their site, and that they bought links. I just never thought about them combining the two. I agree with you though, comments are a representation of you and should reflect your knowledge and personality.
Thanks for the great guest post and for sharing these tips with us.
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May 3, 2011 at 12:28 pm
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Wow! Thanks for these great tips! I still consider myself a newbie blogger and this information is very helpful. I will be checking out CommentLuv and KeywordLuv for sure.
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May 3, 2011 at 12:20 pm
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Hello Ana. I have a lot of respect for you but I think your 90% statistic is off. I bet I can find a LOT of blog that don’t have it. Bloggers that care and try do blogging correctly, yes, maybe. But not 90% of all blogs have commentluv. I think the stats are at 40 000+ downloads but definitely not 90%.
On the other hand, I have a reservation on commenting as traffic generation tactic. I busted my butt one day commenting on, like, 25-30 blogs and saw no traffic increase for that day. And those are blogs that know me.
Any thoughts?
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May 3, 2011 at 10:44 am
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Thank Jane!
One of the biggest problems I come across with comments on my site is automation. These people not only don’t read the post, they don’t even visit the site. As a result I’m forced to moderate all comments coming in, making more work for me, and making the good commenter have to wait. Not so good for flowing conversations!
But you’re right. If more people took commenting seriously, they’d get a lot more traffic.
After all, automation and hiring people to comment for you is like asking a friend to go to a party with your voice on tape, and have him play it periodically. You might get heard, but you won’t make any friends or admirers
I’ll be checking out KeywordLuv now that you’ve mentioned it.
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May 3, 2011 at 10:25 am
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Great points Jane! I just wrote a similar article on how to do comments the right way for the SEO community – hoping that helps people see that the outsourcing and commenting just for links in the method most SEOs use is wrong and they are missing out on valuable opportunities to build relationships that will lead to real links and targeted traffic.
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May 3, 2011 at 10:08 am
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I would like to say that blog commenting is especially effective link development technique to promote blogs and other informational sites. It works perfectly to increase the ammount of targeted traffic to a website, the number of comments and incoming link popularity. But the most important thing is that this technique allows to obtain regular links and traffic.
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May 3, 2011 at 9:32 am
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Hi Jane…
Outsourcing blog commenting? Really? I can’t imagine but I guess it takes all types.
Some of these tips seem like no brainers, but then again if you have to mention them you must have seen them many, many times. I won’t even approve comments that say “Good job” or “Nice post.” No sense in rewarding bad commenting etiquette.
According to the great Kim Castleberry, most people who use CommentLuv forget to register at their website. That’s only giving you half the juice of this powerful plugin. And like you said, you must be consistent in using www or not.
Thanks Jane, enjoyed your guest post!
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May 3, 2011 at 10:24 am
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Hey Bob,
Well, to be honest, I am really sick of seeing people doing things the worng way and that is the motivation of this post. I felt that some of these points are straightforward, but they are still not done properly by the crowd.
Thanks for stopping by.
Cheers,
Jane.
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May 3, 2011 at 7:36 am
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I like. It’s important that people looking for blogs to comment on are first looking for blogs to READ. If you like a blog writer related to your niche then you should work to build a relationship with that author through a variety of means including commenting.
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Blog Commenting Flops: Do These to Lose Traffic and Links
There is nothing wrong in providing a link back to the commenter who has taken the time to read your blog post and leave a comment there; without commenters there will be dead silence on your blog, that’s for sure.
Well, this is a bit off topic, but I want to tell you that every blogger must reward their commenters in one way or another.
This will get you more comments and more loyal readers to your blog, which equals more traffic, in simple words.
For instance, I reward my commenters with dofollow links, Keywordluv, Commentluv, featuring top commenters, showing recent comments and I also do a lucky draw (biweekly) of the active commenters and feature two winners.
I am sure Ana is excellent in rewarding commenters; you can see that right here at her blog.
Now coming back to the topic of this post, blog commenting will not guarantee you traffic UNLESS you do it right.
To “do it right”, you will have to follow at least the basic blog commenting ethics, which require you to:
Following these rules is not too difficult since most of them are just common sense.
But I am talking about those who follow all these common sense ethics in blog commenting, but still scratch their heads without knowing the reason why their blog commenting efforts are not paying off.
Well they won’t pay off until you do it right, I say that again.
So I am writing this post after being fed up with commenters on my own blog and watching those commenters who do it the wrong way on blogs I read regularly.
Biggest Blog Commenting Mistakes
The biggest mistake I see blog commenters make is IGNORANCE.
Come on, this is 2011 and you have to wake up. The commenting system and comment forms on blogs are not the same they used to be even a couple of years ago.
There are quite a few of great features, which were introduced for the benefit of commenters – that is YOU, and you are simply ignoring them.
So how could you expect to get any website traffic?
Even worse, you are not ignoring those features, but using them in the wrong way simply because you don’t want to learn or pay attention to all that newer stuff.
But the rest of the blogosphere does!
I will address a couple of things many commenters are ignorant about.
Ignorant about using Commentluv
Almost 90% of the blogs in the blogosphere have the CommentLuv plugin installed.
This is an awesome plugin that helps the blogger to reward their commenters by allowing them to leave a (do-follow) link back to one of their recent posts.
1. Register on ComLuv.com
Do you know that registering your blog at Comluv website allows you to pick out a link from one of your 10 most recent posts instead of just your last one?
Sometimes your latest post might not be too relevant to the post you are leaving a comment on. Choosing from one of the 10 latest posts could help you change that.
2. www vs non-www & CommentLuv
Did you know that the “www” and “no-www” versions of your blogs are treated different by Comluv?
If you register only one version, you will not get the option to choose from 10 latest posts if you use the other version.
3. Banned URL
Sometimes, as you comment on a blog and try to leave a CommentLuv link, a strange error occurs and no links are returned.
You think that there is something wrong with plugin installation at that blog, or a downtime with Comluv.
Nope!
You have to unban your URL by going to http://comluv.com/member/unban-url/. You can also read up on how your URL gets banned there.
Ignorant about using Keywordluv
Ana has already talked about KeywordLuv here at TGC, where she explained its benefits.
Now, I see a lot of people assuming that every blog is KWL enabled.
No! Such blogs are obvious with a notification message.
With a KWL enabled blog, you type yourname@yourkeyword so that your keyword carries a link back to your blog. But if you do it on a blog that doesn’t have KWL, all you get SEO-wise is a strange string of characters that don’t translate into any meaningful anchor text.
However, you can still get some SEO benefits with “Jane @ Cheap Domains” (note that this is just an example keyword) because the keyword is still around there. But you can get the most out of it by using a simple tip – use a separator ” | “, called “vertical bar” or “pipe“.
You may ask me if @ is a separator or not. Well, it is not a good one in terms of SEO, since @ translates to “@” in HTML when you view any site page source (thanks, Ana, for pointing this out).
But you have got an excellent separator that looks just the same in the html and the non-html version – it is the pipe (the one above the “Enter” key to be used with Shift)!
If I use Jane | Cheap Domains in the name field then Google sees that as two different words “Jane” and “Cheap Domains” and I get backlined for both these words.
So you have your name there and also your keyword – deal.
But you really have to check since some bloggers never allow keywords in the name field even if you use it with your name.
Outsourcing Blog Commenting
This is one of the biggest blunders people are doing, wasting precious time and money. They outsource blog commenting by hiring people to leave comments on other blogs with the urls and anchor texts they specify.
First of all, your comments speak for you and people judge you by your comments (just like a blog post or a guest post you write).
So you cannot (well I will never) compromise on that!
Secondly, it is your reputation, your SEO efforts and in short your blogging future that depends on those people who agree to leave 100 comments on other blogs for $5.
Comment without reading
This one comes under the basic common sense stuff.
But it definitely needs a separate mention. Some people think that they are smart, scan the whole post and leave a controversial comment or a comment with a question.
Well, they know the trick that leaving a controversial comment or provoking a discussion will grab attention.
But they don’t realize how dumb they look when the author or someone else points out that their question is answered right at the blog post!
Marketing Takeaway
Blog commenting, if done correctly, will get you lot of traffic.
It should definitely be a part of your overall blog promotion strategy.
But make sure you handle the loose ends. Use common sense and don’t hesitate to learn about a new plugin or a feature.
Now tell me your experiences with “incorrect” blog commenting strategies.
If you like this post and think it would be valuable to your followers, share the ish out of it for me, would you?