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Why I Will Never Comment On Your Blog (A.K.A. Die, Akismet, Die)

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why i dislike akismetI still remember the days when I heard crickets at Traffic Generation Cafe – after all, it hasn’t been that long ago since it was founded.

I also remember the first time one of the “big-time bloggers” left me a comment on one of my posts.

I was flattered, excited, and motivated to do more and better.

And, quite honestly, that feeling hasn’t gone away.

It still flatters, excites, and motivates me when a more influential blogger graces me with a comment, like Dainis Graveris, the founder of 1stWebDesigner.com, did not long ago:

akismet 1stwebdesigner

By the way, he left this comment on my Today I Feel Like Quitting… post. See, everyone has bad days, no matter how successful we appear to be.

Little he knew that I vied for his attention when I first started out online by leaving comments on his blog, trying to connect with him, other writers, and readers of 1stWebDesigner.

However, my comments never saw the light of day on his blog.

Or any other of these great blogs I like to read to keep up with what’s going on around the blogosphere in general, or SEO specifically:

SearchEnginePeople.com

akismet and searchenginepeople

VerticalMeasures.com

Akismet vertical measures

…two of Neil Patel’s blogs:

akismet at kissmetrics image

 

akismet at quicksprout image

Don’t remember me ever commenting on your blog?

If you had been around Traffic Generation Cafe for any length of time, chances are I’ve TRIED to comment on your blog.

You just never knew about it…

The Problem

You are a smart cookie (after all, you ARE reading my blog); you know where I am going with this.

AKISMET.

Someone convinced you that you HAD to have it to “protect” your blog from spammers… like me.

I am not even exaggerating.

As far as Akismet is concerned, I AM a spammer.

Here’s an email exchange I had with them a couple of weeks ago.

By the way, this was my fifth attempt to learn why my comments weren’t showing up on Akismet-enabled blogs, and the first time they actually decided to get back with me.

Me to Akismet:

Hello Akismet Support Team,

It seems like there is a problem with my website: www.TrafficGenerationCafe.com.

Every time I comment on a wordpress blog that uses akismet, my comments are wrongly flagged as spam.

Could you please see if my website has been blacklisted by Akismet?

I hope you can help me to get this problem sorted out.

Thank you very much.

Ana Hoffman

The response from Mark, Akismet support team, was as follows:

Most blog owners regard comments similar to yours as spam.

You can expect your comments won’t often be published.

That’s not the case everywhere.

Akismet is not a blacklist.

Each blog owner teaches Akismet which kinds of comments they wish to publish and which they do not.

That’s their decision and under their control.

Hold on a second; let me get over being left speechless.

Yep.

I am just a regular spammer.

And according to Akismet, YOU choose not to publish my comments.

Of course, you and I both know that you’d never do that to me.

Or to any other reader who wants to be a part of the conversation on your blog.

However, you’ll never know that I or many other readers tried to comment on your blog.

Akismet won’t even give us the courtesy of sending our comments into spam, giving you a chance to actually see them when you clean out your spam folder every once so often.

No.

Our comments will just DISAPPEAR.

How Do You Know Akismet is Messing with You?

Here’s an example of me commenting on two blogs.

One of them, SEO-Hacker.com, doesn’t use Akismet.

This is what I saw after I left my comment:

no akismet seo-hacker

You see that “Your comment is awaiting moderation” message?

It means that my comment is sitting in Sean’s moderation folder and will be approved when he gets to it.

Additionally, you’ll see your comment URL in the address bar, like this: http://seo-hacker.com/over-optimization-penalty/#comment-2847.

The last #comment-2847 part indicates that the blog “registered” my comment.

The other blog I commented on was Andy Bailey’s (creator of CommentLuv) personal blog FiddyP.

Now Andy is going to get some friendly spanking throughout this post and by the end of the post you’ll understand why.

When I left my comment on his blog, I saw nothing.

No “Your comment is awaiting moderation“.

No #comment-blah-blah URL.

The page simply reloaded once I clicked on “Submit comment” button.

Now this tells me that Andy is using Akismet and that my comment is as good as non-existent.

Andy will never know how highly I thought about that post.

Truth is Andy will be just fine without my comment, but what about you?

Would you pass up an opportunity to be encouraged by another (possibly more influential) blogger?

The Solution

So what now?

Disable the de facto Akismet and let spammers eat you alive?

Of course not.

That’s where Andy Bailey comes in again.

Besides creating the great CommentLuv and, more recently, the incredible CommentLuv Premium, Andy also put together some other plugins, one of which is called Growmap Anti-Spambot Plugin (GASP).

GASP plugin adds a checkbox to your comment form asking users to confirm that they are not a spammer (you can see it at work in my comment section):

gast checkbox

It’s a lot less trouble to check a box than it is to enter a captcha.

Plus, since the box is generated via client side javascript that bots cannot see, it pretty much stops 99% of all automated spam bots (leaving 1% for just in case).

The checkbox needs to be checked before the comment is submitted so there’s no chance that a comment will be lost if it’s being submitted by a legitimate human user.

Unlike Akismet.

I used to get hundreds of automatic spam comments per day when I used Akismet.

On one of my worst days, I got nearly a THOUSAND spam comments, sitting in my moderation queue waiting for my approval.

Meanwhile, I had several legitimate comments sitting in the spam folder and who knows how many have never showed up at all.

Since I installed GASP however, I don’t get ANY auto-spam.

Sure I still get human spammers who casually drop their junk at my doorstep, but I don’t consider 5-10 such comments per day to be too much of a burden.

Especially for a blog like mine.

Especially compared to what I used to get with Akismet.

Especially since I have CommentLuv enabled, and CL blogs tend to get more spam because of greedy link builders.

GASP Features

  • It’s free.
  • Stops auto-spam.
  • Never looses a single human comment.
  • It’s better than any other spam plugin I’ve tried (not exactly a feature, I suppose; personal opinion more like it).

And did I mention it’s free?

So here’s what I want you to do on your blog:

  1. Disable Akismet (don’t even think about double-dipping – you don’t need both Akismet and GASP).
  2. Install GASP.
  3. Share this post with your readership to make sure they too make their blogs more reader-friendly.

2 Steps to Take It Even Further

Why stop here when you can do more, right?

1. Come up with a cool message to scare off spammers.

Or at least, give your readers a laugh.

Danny Sullivan used to have a great one on his personal blog Daggle.com, but he recently started closing comments on his posts very soon after they would be published, so I couldn’t take a snapshot of it.

He did threaten the commentators to report them to Google’s top spam guy (Matt Cutts?) if their comments even smelled of spam.

Needless to say, I never saw any spam comments on his blog.

But then again, neither did I see my own comments published there – darn you, Akismet!

2. Get even more with CommentLuv Premium.

Yep, my opinion on CommentLuv still stands – I’ll take the benefit it provides to my readers/commentators over any potential SEO disadvantages any day of the week.

Just like Kim Castleberry said in her comment on this DragonBlogger post:

opinion on commentluv

And yes, the free CommentLuv is great, but the premium version is way better.

See how and why in this post.

Not only does CommentLuv Premium provide a number of features that will benefit YOU as a blogger, and not just the commentators on your blog, but it will also do an even better job at protecting your blog from spammers.

Its built-in version of GASP has these cool features not available in the free version:

  • Maximum number of URLs allowed in comment text.
  • Maximum number of words allowed in name field.
  • Minimum amount of words required in comment.
  • Minimum amount of keyups on comment (this combats semi-automatic comment applications).

And my favorite:

  • Minimum amount of seconds on page before commenting.

When someone tries to comment after spending less than 60 seconds on any given post on my blog, they’ll get a friendly reminder:

Please read the post before leaving a comment!

Yes, Andy Bailey is brilliant.

So why are you still using Akismet, Andy?!!

Disclaimer: I’d love to sell you a copy of CommentLuv Premium – and not only because I’ll make commission if you buy it through my link, but also because I firmly believe your blog will benefit from it as much as mine and hundreds of others have.

==>Download your own copy here

… and thank you.

Marketing Takeaway

There’s no reason to want to protect your blog at the expense of missing out on legitimate comments.

Even more so, on comments that will make your day.

Do me a favor.

Disable Akismet.

And let me know after you did, so that I can come back and finally let you know what I think about your blog/posts.

Unless you don’t think your content is that good… Then forget about Akismet and think about becoming a better writer first.

Either way, don’t forget to share the post!

akismet traffic generation cafe

Image source: Painting by Majorgaine

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Google+ Comments

{ 242 comments }

Ken Pedersen January 3, 2013 at 7:46 am

Ana,
This has been a frustrating situation, to say the least. None of my comments on Akismet enabled websites are showing. Since reading this post, I’ve disabled Akismet on my own site. The last thing I would want is one of my visitors to experience this same frustration. Thanks for this great post.

Ana Hoffman January 13, 2013 at 10:28 am

You are welcome, Ken – it’s frustrating to know there’s little we can do about it. I simply stopped commenting on Akismet websites; why waste my breath, right?

Daniel December 14, 2012 at 8:25 am

Hey Ana,
I was searching around for techniques to stop spam, and after installing and modifying GASP, I found your site. In general, I agree w/ everything you’ve said, but much of it is beyond the scope of the site I’ve set up for my neighborhood association. As the users that will be creating content and (after my departure, some day in the future) maintaining the site have such a rudimentary knowledge of web technologies, Akismet would simply drop everything it doesn’t like into a black hole, and the users wouldn’t be able to find / fix the problem. Using GASP (hopefully) will stem the tide, but hopefully keep people active in moderating comments.
One thing I had a problem w/ after installing GASP: placing a checkbox AFTER a submit button is, at least, to me, an enormous no-no. I don’t know if there’s some reason for this placement, but I modified GASP to place the checkbox before the submit button, and it works flawlessly.

Ana Hoffman December 14, 2012 at 10:45 pm

I do see your point behind placing the box before the Submit button, but quite honestly, it never even occurred to me before you just brought it up, Daniel.

Elaina Newton December 7, 2012 at 3:53 pm

I am SOOO glad I found this article. I’ve seriously been searching google for months on why 50+% of the comments I make on certain websites never show up. Now I know why. This is so frustrating, especially since I’m not just link dropping and I always write pretty lengthy replies related directly to the post and/or discussions going on in the comments thread. All my comments are genuine, give feedback, sometimes tell personal anecdotes or are asking questions. Why the hell would I be marked as spam? Is this mostly a Wordpress problem? As far as I can remember, every comment I leave on Blogger websites always show up, even if there’s a minor delay for them to approve it first. Is the only solution to spread the word about Akismet so that more bloggers know not to use it?

Ana Hoffman December 10, 2012 at 10:44 pm

Blogger has different spam filters, Elaina, and I don’t think Akismet is one of them.

Philippe Moisan November 2, 2012 at 11:13 am

Hello Ana,

I am writing a special report on how to avoid scams, and I’m broadening the topic by talking about things I recommend, for instance what you talk about here. Is it ok if I put this post’s link in the report?

Also, I have a question. I followed your recommendation as soon as I read this post months ago, i.e. abandon Akismet and use GASP instead. I’m very satisfied with the results. However, as I came back here to get the link, I noticed there’s no date for comments. So how can I know if you still recommend using GASP instead of Akismet?

I guess I should read you regularly to know the answer, but I plead guilty of not coming here more often, not because I don’t like your style, to the contrary, but because I spread myself too thin and I am finally trying to correct that.

Philippe

Ana Hoffman November 3, 2012 at 3:34 pm

I definitely still stand by everything I said in this post, Philippe, and glad to hear that it worked for you as well. Of course, feel free to link to the post.

Hemendra Kumar Saini October 8, 2012 at 11:33 pm

This is what i am really facing, most of my comments on wordpress blogs are marked up as spam and don’t know really. the first basic thing you learn from the blogging honchos to build backlinks, commenting is the best way to do so and a good comment is more appreciable. So following those tips, i started commenting on blog, usually made 5 to 7 comments out of 15-20 i read, than on one fine day, i just commented over 12 blogs including gigaom and after that my blog is listed in De AKISMETO SPAM list. i have contacted them but they haven’t replied. so can you tell me how to deal with them.

Ana Hoffman October 9, 2012 at 6:12 am

Not much you can do about it, Hemendra – unfortunately.

Sergio Felix September 12, 2012 at 11:20 pm

Hey Ana, I have always used the combination between CLP + Akismet and very rarely I get spam but wow now you’ve got me thinking if I’m not losing real comments due to Akismet?

I’m going to disable it for a few days and see what happens… ;-)

Sergio

Ana Hoffman September 13, 2012 at 4:23 pm

I think it’s a great move, Sergio; let me know how it goes.

Jay Piecha September 7, 2012 at 12:14 am

I didn’t activate Akismet because I never know what me “key” is and it’s a hassle to go login and get it. That’s a bad reason isn’t it? lol

I guess that’s why you DID comment on my blog – ok, an older blog of mine – that is no longer live – but you did…you did it, Ana! I still have the database back up if you need me to prove it!

Love your blog. :)
Cheers
Jay

Ana Hoffman September 8, 2012 at 8:37 am

Not going through the trouble of installing something can apparently have its benefits, Jay. ;)

Jack Trades August 28, 2012 at 5:46 am

I understand you perfectly, Ana, it happened to me, too, because I can’t help commenting to other people’s blogs and expressing not only my thoughts, but my feelings, too…

Lucas August 25, 2012 at 2:10 am

Sorry for seeking this only now Ana. I’m still in TGC exploration mode. This is great. I was so happy switching over to Akismet and not having to deal with the 200-300 spam comments I get daily but now I’m too “fatiqued” I guess to even wonder if there is any great ham in the spam of Akismet. I’m sure there is but I seem to be just going straight to “empty spam” without thinking much. Afterall – it’s “just a comment” right. Wrong! Thanks for the headsup and GASP recommendation. I’ll give it a go!

Ana Hoffman August 25, 2012 at 11:43 am

I noticed you have your comment section closed to folks who are not registered on your blog, Lucas; any reason for that?

Lucas August 25, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Thanks Ana for taking a look!!
Reason is a sign of my frustration last night seeing hundreds of spam comments in Akismet. Move was temporary (and very successful I might add). All changed now – based on your great tip – with GASP up and running very nicely.
Have a fantastic Sunday.
Cheers,

Jean-Luc July 21, 2012 at 2:29 pm

I’m also persona non grata with askimet, i think if a few bloggers mark your comment as spam you’ll be blacklisted.
Commentluv is great, spambot gets rid of 100% spam so far and is therefore much better than askimet

Ana Hoffman July 22, 2012 at 9:26 pm

Agreed.

david July 18, 2012 at 8:11 am

Hi Ana, well NOW I know why I have not seen you commenting on my blog latetely.

I do have commentluv premium so I guess I can just go ahead and turn Askimet off. I’m sorry they have treated you so badly, that’s a bummer.

Feel free to come and visit, I’m turning askimet off, right after this post.

Ana Hoffman July 18, 2012 at 10:31 am

There’s definitely no reason to have Akismet, especially if you have CL Premium, David.

david July 18, 2012 at 10:41 am

Yes, Great information Ana. I have disabled it and I suspect it has been blocking others as well. Thanks for that tip Ana.

roxanne July 18, 2012 at 7:35 am

Hi Ana -
Thanks for the great post and tips. From your post, one thing I did right was to NOT install Akismet on my blog – I did get slammed by spammers and almost signed up – then wrote a little “spammers will be deleted” note and now… I hear the crickets. Will give CommentLuv a try. Love all your information and will drop by often.
Thanks!

Ana Hoffman July 22, 2012 at 9:48 pm

I’ll take crickets over spammers any time a day, Roxanne!

Surprised that such a message would deter anyone though…

sandeep kumar July 15, 2012 at 12:36 pm

Hi Ana….
After reading your article I have realized that something similar happening with me as well.

One of my fellow bloggers asked me….”Am I black list by Akismet”… i said no…..then he said that he is getting my comments on spam folder…..

I am also using Akismet but it is not stopping spamer it is just dropping their comments into spam forlder with some valuable readers comments as well.

I’ll uninstall it right now….. and i owuld like to go for GASP.

Thanks for sharing……

Ana Hoffman July 16, 2012 at 6:25 am

I definitely think that’s the right decision – for both your sanity (less spam all around) and your readers’ ability to leave a valid comment on your posts, Sandeep.

Ammar Ali July 14, 2012 at 9:45 pm

I am using akismet still it put some human and good comments in spam.. Never tried GASP.. Will try this from now. ;)

BTW, You can come by and leave a comment ;)

Ana Hoffman July 16, 2012 at 6:27 am

I don’t see GASP on your blog just yet, Ammar, but hopefully you’ll get to it soon.

Ammar Ali July 16, 2012 at 10:56 am

As you said. I am now using GASP.. You can come by and leave a comment ;)

Molley Mills July 12, 2012 at 8:37 am

Hi Ana,
Thank you so much for this excellent insight into the evils of Akismet. I have uninstalled it, no I lie, my techie husband uninstalled it and installed GASP and Commentluv. No more erectile dysfunction spam for me! Perhaps they should pay you NOT to write about them :)
I’m excited to have found your blog, looking forward to getting many more tips on increasing traffic. Blogging life is very new but so much fun.

Ana Hoffman July 12, 2012 at 9:07 am

Hi, Molley – yes, I am still waiting for Akismet to contact me to request (or pay me) to take the post down. ;)

Welcome to Akismet-free world!

Kelvin Wealth July 11, 2012 at 7:01 am

OMG! Ana you got my heart beating so fast… I wasn’t really using Akismet and has never used it before… I must confess I was using a plugin called Comment Spam Swiper that really was working fine…
But each time I get to see some top bloggers talking about Akismet every now and then and that makes me feel as though my blog is not protected enough.

And just early this week I decided to try out Akismet until today That I got to see this post of yours and even before I finished reading this post, I already deleted Akismet and installed GASP.

Thanks for saving my a**.

But I got a mail just few seconds after installing GASP on my blog from a visitor that he tried to comment on my blog and he got a kind of Javascript error which I don’t know how to fix and I feel it’s coming from GASP… How do you think I can fix this up coz I don’t want to go back to Akismet for any reason.

Thanks so much Ana

Ana Hoffman July 11, 2012 at 7:46 am

Not sure why that commentator had a problem, Kelvin.

I just left a comment for you and it went through just fine.

If you ever have problems like that, you can always contact Andy Bailey at Comluv.com; he’s always very good at looking into errors caused by his plugins.

Kelvin Wealth July 11, 2012 at 8:01 am

Thanks Ana,

I just saw and approved your comment and I believe it is working fine… If I get any error again I will definitely ask Andy…

Once again thanks for dropping a comment on my blog…truly appreciated

Ana Hoffman July 11, 2012 at 8:19 am

You are so very welcome, Kelvin – you take your time to read and comment on my blog; visiting yours is the least I can do.

Kevin P. July 11, 2012 at 2:33 am

GASP is one of the best plugins I’ve ever used. I still use it to this very day on my blogs and my customers.

Ana Hoffman July 11, 2012 at 7:56 am

Long time, no see, Kevin; welcome back!

Kevin P. July 11, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Wow! I can’t believe you still remember me lol. I’ve missed so much from your blog, but I’m back and ready for more.

Ana Hoffman July 12, 2012 at 8:02 am

Of course, I do, Kevin; look forward to seeing you around again.

Phil July 11, 2012 at 12:05 am

Excellent post Ana and for me very timely. I have recently installed CommentLuv Premium on my site and still finding my way a little.

However, when set it up I also kept Akismet activated as it seemed to make sense as it offered better Spam protection I thought. So I appreciate your advice regarding disabling Akismet. I am going to do it straight away and monitor it for a while to see the effect after ensuring GASP is fully enabled of course.

Once again thanks Ana for an interesting post, I would be happy to add my initial findings after a few days if that would be ok.

Ana Hoffman July 11, 2012 at 8:03 am

I think that a wise move, Phil, and just in case you need extra help setting up your CL Premium, here’s a link to my post on the topic: http://www.trafficgenerationcafe.com/commentluv-premium-settings/

Phil July 11, 2012 at 10:13 am

Thank you Ana for your link to the CommentLuv Premium setup page, much appreciated. I am off there right now and look forward to reading your suggestions.

Phil July 15, 2012 at 2:14 am

Hi Ana, having implemented your advice and disabled Akismet I am now relying entirely on GASP for spam protection.

Now after 4 days I am pleased to report that I have received less spam comments than previously so I feel confident enough to leave Akismet deactivated on my blog.

Thank you again for your advice, your generousity is really appreciated.

Ana Hoffman July 15, 2012 at 9:55 am

You are so very welcome, Phil, and I am happy to hear my advice helped.

Augis July 10, 2012 at 3:58 pm

To be honest – that’s the first time I’ve ever heard anything bad about Akismet. I wonder if Yaro (from Entrepreneur’s Journey) for whom you are guest posting disagrees with you on this point? ;-)

Anyway, I am in the mood to experiment and see if changing the Anti-Spam plugin would turn out to beneficial.

Ana Hoffman July 10, 2012 at 7:46 pm

Just left a comment on your recent post, Augis – looks like you have GASP now and my comment went through just fine.

Even though I am a registered author at Yaro’s blog, many of my responses on my posts were still stuck in spam. Not sure it bothers Yaro; he doesn’t usually attend to comments himself.

Jason Mathes July 10, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Hmm… I’ll have to experiment with disabling Akismet for a bit and see how it goes.

I’m one of those “ultra-paranoid” bloggers as I loathe seeing spam as a comment.

And I never even knew about the GASP setting forcing a timer before commenting? (Since I usually READ the post and comments – go figure?)

I’ll bite the bullet and give it a shot!

Ana Hoffman July 10, 2012 at 5:01 pm

Just left you a comment on the post from your CL link, Jason – went through like knife through butter!

I love it when you actually act upon what you read… what a novel idea! Similar to actually reading the post before commenting.

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