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July 30, 2012 at 11:52 am
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Hi Ana I’ve been building backlinks for a while now and while I have seen come and go many strategies I can confirm that link building using your method remains the only sane method left to us. I think there is a lot of disinformation floating around and finding the truth has always been challenging to all SEO’s. One place that I’ve been studying is social media. I know that some redirect the url you leave behind in social media web sites are believed to not have any value but I’m starting to believe otherwise. What do you think are no follows and redirected urls ignored by Google?
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March 7, 2012 at 6:00 am
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Greetings from the UK. Thanks very much Ana, I think you have saved me a huge amount of wasted time getting links from the wrong sites. I did suspect that our position on Google got more value from one good PR 7 link than all the others we had slaved over. Thanks to you my days will be spent more productively.
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January 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm
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Hi Ana,
I totally agree with you. I believe that “10 quality links than 100 junk ones”.
I’m managing a Travel blog and I’ve followed the common standard of creating hundreds of backlinks using some of the “Naughty” methods that you mentioned. The fact is that the results weren’t satisfactory and in my perspective, it was a complete waste of time.
Quality is the answer. It takes discipline and some criteria, but I believe that is the most effective way to reach the top.Thank you for your work.
Cheers from Portugal,
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January 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm
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Great advice as always Ana, I stupidly bought some ‘Article Spinning’ software and though the spinning part worked well, the submission part didn’t because it got caught out by CAPTCHAs.
In the end I was glad it didn’t work anyway because I was never comfortable with the idea, nor convinced that even if I was really careful about the grammar and wording of all of the possible permutations, it didn’t feel genuine to put multiple versions of what is basically the same article out there (even though some very reputable a-list bloggers have defended this as OK and not ‘cheating’ in any way).
I still don’t feel right with the idea. In the end, doing what you feel is right, having integrity, leaving genuine comments, building genuine relationships… all of these things are what should contribute to your success not quick wins and tactics,
and I have to say that above everything else is what keeps me coming back to a blog like yours – quality and integrity really counts,
take care & best wishes,
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December 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm
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Anna,
In case you’re tracking such matters as I suspect you are, I found your site after adding someone to a G+ Circle and I did that coz G said we had 58 people in common so I fig we run in the same circles, so to speak. I subbed to your list coz you entice the right way. Did a quickie Evelyn Wood speed read and low and behold, I found a mini-snafu that maybe you know about and maybe you don’t? Either way, nice Thesis site and all the best. Cya round campus — Neil
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December 16, 2011 at 3:22 am
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Hi Ana, yes it’s true, when lots of people are going wild with forum posting and commenting, it’s really really hard to get a decent authority backlink.
So I kind of avoid this strategy too. In addition I do once in a while few directory submissions but only as an add-on, it’s really useless to depend on those.
I will have to follow you on twitter again once I return home, since you got a new account
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December 10, 2011 at 1:11 am
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Excellent analysis. I looked at UAW a while back and decided to give it a miss. Seeing your comment confirms that following my instincts usually proves a good strategy.
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December 7, 2011 at 11:29 am
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Fantastic post! Link building is one of those things that I’ve been struggling with, simply because people are constantly arguing about what works and what doesn’t.
I’ve hired people to build links for me twice, and was sorely disappointed with the results. One of the services left links on bizarre sites (think cooking blogs and blogs with names that made me worry they were porn-related) and wrote me a PR that was talking about my 20+ years experience in internet marketing. (Apparently I started when I was 5 . . . that’s a good one.)
The other service just wrote a few articles, spun the crap out of them, and posted them all over the place using a pen name. I was left wondering exactly how that helped the ranking of the website in question.
So I’m still trying to figure out the best methods for me and my sites, but I’m slowly knocking some out of the running because I don’t like/trust them. (I won’t even touch backlinking software. It just screams “bad” to me.)
Thanks for the pointer on UAW, Ana. I was thinking about signing up, but was really going back and forth about it. Your comments make me think I wouldn’t be at all pleased with the results. : )
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November 25, 2011 at 5:00 pm
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Excellent post,
I know everyone is wanting more and more links, but I one hundred percent agree that 10 quality links is better than 100 poor quality links. The main issue I come across is clients wanting instant results, Building good quality links is time consuming but the rewards are worth the hard work.
Finding good blogs with do follow links can take sometime but worth the weight in gold, constructive comments blogging is a good link builder, What do you think?
Wayne
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November 17, 2011 at 12:11 am
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Hi Ana,
i am not agree with you Sorry !
Yes, its true that getting link from .gov and .edu is too hard .But Why you are saying this is wast of time ?
Consider same PR for both .com and .gov/.edu , Getting link from .gov/.edu sites is more than 100 times valuable from getting link from .com site.By the way,Great Post.
Enjoying myself your Blog,Really.
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November 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm
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Hi Ana,
I think you give some very sound advice. I agree with the comments about forums however I think they still can be useful in terms of getting an article indexed (ezinearticles) and in having additional anchor text.
Neil
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October 23, 2011 at 8:49 am
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Hi Ana,
I have an online retail business, and I have started a blog, but its separate from my retail website. Do you have specific help for someone like me? My current e-commerce website provider does not have the option to add a blog to the retail website, so I started my blog on blogger. How do I get the blog going so that the traffic ultimately ends up on my retail site?? My gut tells me if I write good content that ultimately visitors will check out my retail site as a result?
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October 19, 2011 at 11:17 pm
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Hi Ana,
Just found your blog and find it interesting. Although, you post this several months ago, i noticed that up to now, a lot still find it interesting including myself.
I agree with you on your link building plan (maybe you are still doing it). Most of it are all effective in link building since i am doing it as well.
I agree with you also on .edu/.gov links, its such a waste of time since its really difficult to get your comments approve. I like your appropriate phrase – “Too much work and doubtful results.”
Great post by the way!
-Gary-
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October 17, 2011 at 2:17 pm
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Hey Ana I really enjoyed reading about your link building strategy and I came to this article
through your guide that I got from this page Get Free Report
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October 11, 2011 at 8:09 pm
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Hey Ana, got a question. Not sure if I’m doing this right and I THINK I read it in this article. In any case, I was doing a google search to try and find high PR blog posts to comment on. I have the SEOQuake plugin which tells me the PR of each result so I was hoping to just scan the results and make a list of the pages I want to post on. I set my default results to 50, did a search for my keyword and then switched it to blogs. Google keeps thinking I’m sending automated queries and is either blocking me or making it so the plugins are not pulling PR. So it’s not really working – is there a better way to do this? I even turned off every component of SEOQuake that it returns except the PR thinking that might be fewer queries and it still happens.
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September 26, 2011 at 6:20 am
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I’m alive. Great article Ana. Guest posting is something I haven’t yet started doing, and I think I will spend some time doing so in future.
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September 13, 2011 at 5:16 pm
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I know lots of people who used to play clean while others used to play dirty when it comes to link building process. Either way, an individual must be ready for any consequences he/she might face in the future. Anyway, effective strategies may differ from individuals so there’s no standard format for any link building strategies.
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September 3, 2011 at 2:53 am
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I agree with you that spun articles are total crap. Interesting article, considering it was written pre-Panda… you make a lot of great points that are still valid even after the update.
I’d love to see any kind of ‘form’ letter you usually send out when asking for a guest spot in someone’s blog. I know you probably tailor such an inquiry to each different website, but I’m curious to know how you go about approaching people in general, without looking spammy.
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August 30, 2011 at 8:02 am
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I really enjoy reading your posts and also the comments to it. I’m currently working on a program of back linking for several of my sites and tried the UAW $67.00 a month program, plus the cost of a copy writer who was experienced in writing the 3 articles in their format. I was in for 3 months and by accident one evening, I found a link to one of their spun articles. It was so bad I had a problem understanding the topic of the article. YUK! I logged in to UAW and immediately cancelled the subscription. I’ve been leery of any type of spun articles since then. I’m working on a Yahoo Pipe for RSS today and need to figure that out. I wonder how long it will be until Google decides these methods are done and wants something else???
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August 26, 2011 at 1:02 am
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Great site Ana. I started a site recently and thought I was doing what everyone did when I subscribed to an up-sell for a link building service. After 2 weeks I canceled that service because I started to learn more about link building and the idea didn’t sit right with me, nor did the fee. So it was reassuring to read your post on link building and wish I had found your site sooner.
One thing though, by having used a link building service for only a few weeks, do search engines blacklist people who use these services, and is the blacklisting permanent? I’m paranoid about stuff like that and think that their gonna get me.
Cheers. Mike
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August 22, 2011 at 2:30 pm
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I tend to agree with you on not wasting your time on low quality links. At my previous job, whom I will keep anonymous, we used every SEO software known to man from SEnuke to all the edwinsoft software. To be honest it really worked for their niche. They are ranking in the top spots for high search volume keywords. I’m keeping an eye out on their rankings to see when google catches on, and im sure they will. I do what you say at my current job focusing on guest posts and getting relevant links through a social network called linkdip. Thanks for the post!
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August 21, 2011 at 6:05 pm
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I’m not here building links, Ana, but it never hurts.
I really love your site. Your writing has a fine polish, warmth, and real depth of content. Are you sure you are from the former Soviet Union? Your command of the English language is impressive. In any case, my blog below today acknowledges a tip I found here. It has a picture of a cow! Sincerely appreciative of your work here. -
August 8, 2011 at 8:01 pm
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Hi Ana,
I stumbled upon your site and it is really obvious that you know your stuff. I have learned alot from your site. This is an amazing source of information. I also agree that it is quality over quantity when it comes to links. I was debating this with someone else the other day also so it is interesting that I came across this article.Well, thanks and I look forward to reading much more of your information.
Bob
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August 7, 2011 at 2:46 am
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Ana, so what would you say about strategy for example I will be guest blogging on some authority sites and I will then promote these guest blog posts through systems like UAW or with Article Marketing Robot, what do you say?
Regards, Adam
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August 1, 2011 at 1:54 am
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Nice article, I noticed how you get to the point where a blogger told you to stop spinning articles and then your page went up? Are you saying it went up as a result of just stopping spinning articles or it went up because you switched to using the ‘What Links Are Nice’ approach? As I don’t wish to fall into similar pitfalls, but that particular part isn’t completely clear on what you did to then get back to Page 1?
Are you also saying that if Google starts seeing you as a spammer there is potential to change that around? As I figured if you were seen as taking a black hat approach you would be ‘blacklisted’ to some extent?
Insightful article though
AH
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July 21, 2011 at 8:06 pm
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Wow, one more brand new thing I have learned from you today. You mentioned that you are commenting to get quality links to individual posts. I have always thought that it makes much more sense to create many links to the main site or blog page. Don’t you spread your efforts thin if you link back to many blog posts?
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July 31, 2011 at 11:23 pm
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Hello Tom,
I was recently watching a white board friday that Rand from seomoz did back in March and he was saying that you shouldn’t really pay much attention to the home page PR. It is really more about overall domain authority.What Ana is doing by linking back to her individual posts, she is more evenly raising her overall domain authority and not just the PR of her home page.
We like to say my site is a pr3 or pr4, but that is really not true. What we should be saying is my home page is a pr4. I would rather have a do follow link from a pr2 page with a site that has a pr3 home page, than a link on a page with no pr from a site that has a pr5 home page.
I think linking directly to posts that are optimized for your key words are a great way to get to the top of google because most people don’t do it and sometimes, five or 10 good links pointing directly to an individual post with your anchor text is all you need to get to the top.
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July 19, 2011 at 8:50 pm
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I really appreciate your input as I’ve debated this topic many times (and still do). I just keep playing the scenarios in my head about quality vs. quantity. I’m mostly a “quality” type of guy.
I’m with you John Lee. After working a full 40 hour/week day job and then doing SEO for your own website on the side can be a daunting task. I’m glad to have Ana’s awesome articles to help me out. -
June 19, 2011 at 9:37 pm
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We have a niche that is so highly specialized, I am not really sure how to get to the blogs or anything. We do electrical testing, working with electrical engineers and such. It sounds like it would be easy, just find all the electrical blogs but I am having a very difficult time with this. Any ideas, I would appreciate it. Thanks for your great article.
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April 29, 2011 at 2:47 am
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Hi Ana, and thanks for the article.
I just wanted to comment on the part where you stopped using UAW.
You said that when you stopped submitting the articles, your site climbed back up? That is most probably the Google dance as Garen said, because the links are/were still there and Google most probably kept finding them after you stopped submitting? How much time did you invest, and how many links did you get from UAW? How old is that particular domain name and what was its link profile before the UAW blasts? -
April 7, 2011 at 7:57 am
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I agree with you Ana.. I know I have wasted my time by submitting spun articles to many directories and blogs.. Finally I stop doing that and focus on commenting, links between my owns blogs or friends..
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April 6, 2011 at 1:53 pm
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Hi Ana
What a fantastic blog! I find mysel coming back here everytime you send me an email. Leaning a lot.
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February 21, 2011 at 3:00 pm
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Great post Ana! Just stumbled onto your blog and can’t wait to read more!
Larry
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February 19, 2011 at 6:15 am
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I agree that the way to go is spending time on a few high quality links and then a lot of time on writing linkable content.
Diversity is an important factor in creating a natural link building pattern. you cannot control the quality or quantity of links to great content, but it’s not that important as long as people link. You write that you try to get 10 links for each important post, but I think it will look suspicious to Google if noone else links, and all your posts have more or less the same number of ingoing links.
I am currently co-owner of two webshops that we are closing down. But, boy do you learn a lot from running a shop. Instead of our current shops we will be starting a new shop in a more competitive segment where the competitors have between 100,000 and 700,000 links. Even with this big difference in links they seem to have equal popularity with Google on a number of keywords, so quantity is definitely not the primary goal. So, I guess getting high quality links manually and setting up some link bait for quantity will be my goal for the new shop. I know for sure that I am not going to try to get x00,000 links manually
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January 31, 2011 at 11:37 pm
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Hey Ana,
Do you think that the test with UAW could have been a Google dance. Maybe, discrediting the links for a bit just to see if they stick. Then when you quit and Google gave you the green light, because the links were still there.
I always build my links in so many ways there is no footprint at all. I also think that slow and steady will bring you to the tops of Google. Maybe Google has combated spam However, if you build to quickly I have noticed a drop in rankings for awhile, too.
Lastly, I focus on the most unique content and use forums just to find out what people want to know, along with Yahoo Answers. I use IBP to make sure my content is about the same size as the top 10 in Google. But, I make it better
Garen
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by Ana Hoffman 167 comments
Link Building: What’s Naughty, What’s Nice?
I made my choice...
There’s something really comforting in creating lists as far as I am concerned – they give you purpose, keep you on track, and even make you feel guilty when you mess up.
Perfect for my type of personality.
I’ve been thinking a lot about link building recently, like since about 10 am this morning, and it suddenly dawned on me: why not take my link building to a whole new level and see where it takes me?
There is a lot of talk about the quality and relevancy of links.
Some think a link is a link and it’s the quantity that matters. Yet others believe that it’s all about the kind of links you get, not necessarily the number of them, unless you are talking about a number of quality links of course.
We can sit and argue the merits of each point until we are blue in the face, but this is my blog, so I can take whatever point of view I wish to take and it’s up to you to take it or leave it.
I am already looking forward to the comments on this one…
My Link Building Theory
Not all links are created equal.
Larger quantity of whatever links doesn’t equal higher PageRank or higher search engine rankings.
I’ve been watching a lot of websites making it to the top spot in Google that had very few links vs many websites with thousands of links ranked much lower.
Also, one site could have only 3 backlinks with one of them being PR6.
The second site has 500 backlinks total with one of them being PR6.
The first site ends up with PR5.
The second site ends up with PR2.
The only possible conclusion is that Google heavily favors the quality of links over their quantity. Additionally, it almost looks like the pagerank flowing in is evenly distributed among the number of incoming links.
Now, mind you this is a theory, but it’s based upon close observation, experience, and similar opinions from bloggers I look up to and respect in the field.
Here’s another observation: a few month ago I decided to try out Unique Article Wizard on one of my sites.
For those of you who are not familiar with UAW, it’s an article spinning and automatic submission software. My objective was to build links to one of my websites and push it up the Google ladder; at that time the website was ranked #10 for my main keyword. Besides taking up all my time spinning the articles until my head was spinning, UAW did the exact opposite of what I expected: it pushed my site further down, all the way to the third page as a matter of fact.
Since back then I didn’t have enough experience to analyze why my website went down like a torpedo, I kept spinning and submitting article until one kind soul who knew a thing or two about SEO told me to stop. Within that week, my site was back on the first page. Soon after it was in the top 3.
One might certainly might argue it was a coincidence or there must’ve been other factors that came into play.
But remember, my blog – my story – my conclusions.
So if my observations hold water, it might mean that Google has finally come up with a way to deal with link spammers.
Let’s get back to my love for lists now and see what kind of lists I can come up with for naughty and nice links (I know, I know, Christmas is over, but hey, it’s catchy and nothing else comes to mind…)
Which Links Are Naughty?
In my book, these are the ones I am not going to waste my time getting.
Inclusion in this list doesn’t necessarily constitute that there is anything wrong with these links per se. (sounds like a bad disclaimer)
Which Links Are Nice?
Let me define my perfect link, first of all.
My perfect link comes from within content (as opposed to comments, for instance), PR4 +, DoFollow, from a relevant website (for instance, a blog on traffic generation or SEO) or at least, a relevant page for sure.
Now, this almost never happens.
So what link building strategies do I plan to focus on this year?
My very first link bait post was actually one of the first ones I ever wrote for this blog: 202 Bite-Sized Tips to Insanely Increase Your Blog Traffic. It is a great post indeed.
However, I decided to take “natural” link building (meaning, readers naturally linking to you because of good content) into my own hands and contacted Kristi Hines of Kikolani.com, letting her know of my post and why I think it would be so great to be included in her Friday Mashups.
My post showed up in her next Friday Mashup and many other posts after that.
Marketing Takeaway:
Let me stress one more time that there is nothing wrong with these links in their own.
My list is simply based on the fact that:
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