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Link Building: What’s Naughty, What’s Nice?

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I made my choice...

There’s something really comforting in creating lists as far as I am concerned – they give you purpose, keep you on track, and even make you feel guilty when you mess up.

Perfect for my type of personality.

I’ve been thinking a lot about link building recently, like since about 10 am this morning, and it suddenly dawned on me: why not take my link building to a whole new level and see where it takes me?

There is a lot of talk about the quality and relevancy of links.

Some think a link is a link and it’s the quantity that matters. Yet others believe that it’s all about the kind of links you get, not necessarily the number of them, unless you are talking about a number of quality links of course.

We can sit and argue the merits of each point until we are blue in the face, but this is my blog, so I can take whatever point of view I wish to take and it’s up to you to take it or leave it.

I am already looking forward to the comments on this one…

My Link Building Theory

Not all links are created equal.

Larger quantity of whatever links doesn’t equal higher PageRank or higher search engine rankings.

I’ve been watching a lot of websites making it to the top spot in Google that had very few links vs many websites with thousands of links ranked much lower.

Also, one site could have only 3 backlinks with one of them being PR6.

The second site has 500 backlinks total with one of them being PR6.

The first site ends up with PR5.

The second site ends up with PR2.

The only possible conclusion is that Google heavily favors the quality of links over their quantity. Additionally, it almost looks like the pagerank flowing in is evenly distributed among the number of incoming links.

Now, mind you this is a theory, but it’s based upon close observation, experience, and similar opinions from bloggers I look up to and respect in the field.

Here’s another observation: a few month ago I decided to try out Unique Article Wizard on one of my sites.

For those of you who are not familiar with UAW, it’s an article spinning and automatic submission software. My objective was to build links to one of my websites and push it up the Google ladder; at that time the website was ranked #10 for my main keyword. Besides taking up all my time spinning the articles until my head was spinning, UAW did the exact opposite of what I expected: it pushed my site further down, all the way to the third page as a matter of fact.

Since back then I didn’t have enough experience to analyze why my website went down like a torpedo, I kept spinning and submitting article until one kind soul who knew a thing or two about SEO told me to stop. Within that week, my site was back on the first page. Soon after it was in the top 3.

One might certainly might argue it was a coincidence or there must’ve been other factors that came into play.

But remember, my blog – my story – my conclusions. :)

So if my observations hold water, it might mean that Google has finally come up with a way to deal with link spammers.

Let’s get back to my love for lists now and see what kind of lists I can come up with for naughty and nice links (I know, I know, Christmas is over, but hey, it’s catchy and nothing else comes to mind…)

Which Links Are Naughty?

In my book, these are the ones I am not going to waste my time getting.

Inclusion in this list doesn’t necessarily constitute that there is anything wrong with these links per se. (sounds like a bad disclaimer)

  • Article directories. I will continue submitting to EzineArticles, for no good reason really, just because I feel like I need to pay my dues to the article mogul. However, I will stop wasting time submitting to a thousand and one directories.
  • Directory listings. Some directories rock. I would definitely love to have a link from DMOZ, for instance – what blogger wouldn’t! However, I am not going to waste my time submitting my blog to a thousand and one directories.
  • Forums. I know, I know, many of you are still fond of forums, BUT it’s extremely hard to get a decent link from a decent page with your keywords in it. My time is simply better spent doing other things.
  • Social Media/Forum Profiles. Many SEOs still believe that getting useless links from deep no PR pages of well-ranked websites is a good thing and that the home page PR will somehow rub off your teeny-tiny profile, hidden amongst millions of others. I’ve seen all kinds of “research” on the matter; however, most of the times they target very obscure keywords that I can probably rank for without a single link.
  • .EDU/.GOV Links. Don’t get me wrong: I won’t turn one down if it comes my way, but I won’t waste my time intentionally searching them out. It’s getting increasingly difficult to get your comments approved on both .edu and .gov blogs. Creating profiles on those sites just doesn’t work too well – see my point above. Too much work and doubtful results.
  • Automated Submission Software of any kind. Self-explanatory, assuming you read the first part of this post.
  • Reciprocal/Paid Linking of any kind. I can’t believe I still get those questions: do you think it’s OK for me to do some paid linking? Let’s put it to rest once and for all: DON’T do it. PERIOD.

Which Links Are Nice?

Let me define my perfect link, first of all.

My perfect link comes from within content (as opposed to comments, for instance), PR4 +, DoFollow, from a relevant website (for instance, a blog on traffic generation or SEO) or at least, a relevant page for sure.

Now, this almost never happens.

So what link building strategies do I plan to focus on this year?

  • Guest Posting. This is the single best way to get great DoFollow one way links from some of the best blogs around, PLUS “borrow” their traffic. The possibilities for this strategy are endless; they are only limited by your “I don’t really have time for this” excuse. I used to have it, but no more. I am writing this post on January 1 and I’ve already written and submitted (and got accepted) a blog post to a PR6 blog with 20K Alexa traffic ranking.
  • Selective Blog Commenting. Now there is blog commenting for the sake of networking and just getting your name out there and there’s blog commenting geared specifically towards link building. My goal here is to build 10 quality links to each post I am working on ranking for with my keywords as anchor text. Ideally, I’ll be looking for DoFollow blogs with PR4+ for THAT PAGE (not just overall blog PR) that allow keywords in name field. It goes without saying, I NEVER spam. Link building or not, I leave thoughtful comments.
  • Link Bait Posts. There’s plenty of info written on the subject; however, I know there are many new bloggers reading this, so let me tell you what it means one more time. Link bait posts are very well-researched one of a kind posts that readers would naturally want to link to since they are SO good. The trick here is not to sit and wait for people to find those posts and link to them.

My very first link bait post was actually one of the first ones I ever wrote for this blog: 202 Bite-Sized Tips to Insanely Increase Your Blog Traffic. It is a great post indeed.

However, I decided to take “natural” link building (meaning, readers naturally linking to you because of good content) into my own hands and contacted Kristi Hines of Kikolani.com, letting her know of my post and why I think it would be so great to be included in her Friday Mashups.

My post showed up in her next Friday Mashup and many other posts after that.

Marketing Takeaway:

Let me stress one more time that there is nothing wrong with these links in their own.

My list is simply based on the fact that:

  • I am too busy to waste my time building low-quality links
  • I don’t believe those links have positive effect on your optimization efforts
  • They might actually have negative effect on your SEO
  • I’d rather have 10 quality links than 100 junk ones

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Claude Bourgoin July 30, 2012 at 11:52 am

Hi Ana I’ve been building backlinks for a while now and while I have seen come and go many strategies I can confirm that link building using your method remains the only sane method left to us. I think there is a lot of disinformation floating around and finding the truth has always been challenging to all SEO’s. One place that I’ve been studying is social media. I know that some redirect the url you leave behind in social media web sites are believed to not have any value but I’m starting to believe otherwise. What do you think are no follows and redirected urls ignored by Google?

Ana Hoffman August 2, 2012 at 8:25 am

I think when it comes down to social media, Google is interested in more than just links, Claude.

Even if your brand is simply mentioned by someone without even a link, it counts. Being talked about is definitely in.

Mike March 7, 2012 at 6:00 am

Greetings from the UK. Thanks very much Ana, I think you have saved me a huge amount of wasted time getting links from the wrong sites. I did suspect that our position on Google got more value from one good PR 7 link than all the others we had slaved over. Thanks to you my days will be spent more productively.

Ana Hoffman March 7, 2012 at 7:25 am

You are very welcome, Mike.

J Campos January 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Hi Ana,
I totally agree with you. I believe that “10 quality links than 100 junk ones”.
I’m managing a Travel blog and I’ve followed the common standard of creating hundreds of backlinks using some of the “Naughty” methods that you mentioned. The fact is that the results weren’t satisfactory and in my perspective, it was a complete waste of time.
Quality is the answer. It takes discipline and some criteria, but I believe that is the most effective way to reach the top.

Thank you for your work.

Cheers from Portugal,
J Campos

Ana Hoffman January 15, 2012 at 12:26 pm

You are so welcome; thanks for coming by.

Alan January 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm

Great advice as always Ana, I stupidly bought some ‘Article Spinning’ software and though the spinning part worked well, the submission part didn’t because it got caught out by CAPTCHAs.

In the end I was glad it didn’t work anyway because I was never comfortable with the idea, nor convinced that even if I was really careful about the grammar and wording of all of the possible permutations, it didn’t feel genuine to put multiple versions of what is basically the same article out there (even though some very reputable a-list bloggers have defended this as OK and not ‘cheating’ in any way).

I still don’t feel right with the idea. In the end, doing what you feel is right, having integrity, leaving genuine comments, building genuine relationships… all of these things are what should contribute to your success not quick wins and tactics,

and I have to say that above everything else is what keeps me coming back to a blog like yours – quality and integrity really counts,

take care & best wishes,
Alan

Ana Hoffman January 13, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Thanks, Alan.

What I’ve learned in the past few months though that to compete in more desirable niches, you do need the quantity of links as well as quality.

alan January 14, 2012 at 3:07 am

Hmmmmm … you now have me wondering what a ‘more desirable’ niche is…

In any case I like quality and integrity and I forgot to mention I particularly like efficiency (it’s what I’ve been paid a lot of money for a long time to teach people so very inefficient of me to forget that one) – quantity sounds like a lot of work to me … don’t like that … though presumably over time the numbers will grow through natural progression and that I’m totally cool with ;-)

My niche is very broad – How To Enjoy Life More For Less + Coaching – not sure if that qualifies as desirable and it doesn’t even feel very ‘Niche’ but it’s what I’m passionate about so that matters a great deal to me too (otherwise what’s the point),

thanks again for the informative post Ana,
take care,
Alan

Ana Hoffman January 14, 2012 at 8:12 am

If you are having hard time narrowing down your niche, Alan, then so will search engines.

If that’s the case, most of your traffic would have to come from networking, which is a lot of constant work.

Neil Ferree December 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Anna,

In case you’re tracking such matters as I suspect you are, I found your site after adding someone to a G+ Circle and I did that coz G said we had 58 people in common so I fig we run in the same circles, so to speak. I subbed to your list coz you entice the right way. Did a quickie Evelyn Wood speed read and low and behold, I found a mini-snafu that maybe you know about and maybe you don’t? Either way, nice Thesis site and all the best. Cya round campus — Neil

Ana Hoffman December 23, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Thanks for coming by, Neil!

This post is a bit older; what snafu are you referring to?

Look forward to seeing you around.

Jo December 16, 2011 at 3:22 am

Hi Ana, yes it’s true, when lots of people are going wild with forum posting and commenting, it’s really really hard to get a decent authority backlink.

So I kind of avoid this strategy too. In addition I do once in a while few directory submissions but only as an add-on, it’s really useless to depend on those.

I will have to follow you on twitter again once I return home, since you got a new account :)

Happy Friday,
Joanna

Ana Hoffman December 16, 2011 at 5:34 am

I think those links are great in terms of adding diversity, but in the end, they most likely don’t add my quality, Jo.

Thanks for coming by!

Jonathon December 10, 2011 at 1:11 am

Excellent analysis. I looked at UAW a while back and decided to give it a miss. Seeing your comment confirms that following my instincts usually proves a good strategy.

Ana Hoffman December 10, 2011 at 5:06 pm

There are definitely better quality blog networks out there, Jonathon.

Lindsey Rainwater December 7, 2011 at 11:29 am

Fantastic post! Link building is one of those things that I’ve been struggling with, simply because people are constantly arguing about what works and what doesn’t.

I’ve hired people to build links for me twice, and was sorely disappointed with the results. One of the services left links on bizarre sites (think cooking blogs and blogs with names that made me worry they were porn-related) and wrote me a PR that was talking about my 20+ years experience in internet marketing. (Apparently I started when I was 5 . . . that’s a good one.)

The other service just wrote a few articles, spun the crap out of them, and posted them all over the place using a pen name. I was left wondering exactly how that helped the ranking of the website in question.

So I’m still trying to figure out the best methods for me and my sites, but I’m slowly knocking some out of the running because I don’t like/trust them. (I won’t even touch backlinking software. It just screams “bad” to me.)

Thanks for the pointer on UAW, Ana. I was thinking about signing up, but was really going back and forth about it. Your comments make me think I wouldn’t be at all pleased with the results. : )

Ana Hoffman December 8, 2011 at 8:36 am

I am all for link building quality, Lindsey.

HOWEVER, since I wrote this post I realized that link quantity does have its place in SEO – it all depends on your niche and how competitive it is.

If my competitor has thousands of links and I have a few quality ones, Google will still most likely rank them above me. That’s the truth.

Wayne November 25, 2011 at 5:00 pm

Excellent post,

I know everyone is wanting more and more links, but I one hundred percent agree that 10 quality links is better than 100 poor quality links. The main issue I come across is clients wanting instant results, Building good quality links is time consuming but the rewards are worth the hard work.

Finding good blogs with do follow links can take sometime but worth the weight in gold, constructive comments blogging is a good link builder, What do you think?

Wayne

Ana Hoffman November 25, 2011 at 8:26 pm

I certainly agree, Wayne – quality is worth searching for.

Sayed November 17, 2011 at 12:11 am

Hi Ana,
i am not agree with you Sorry !
Yes, its true that getting link from .gov and .edu is too hard .But Why you are saying this is wast of time ?
Consider same PR for both .com and .gov/.edu , Getting link from .gov/.edu sites is more than 100 times valuable from getting link from .com site.

By the way,Great Post.
Enjoying myself your Blog,Really.
Sayed

Ana Hoffman November 18, 2011 at 12:08 pm

I love it when my readers disagree with me, Sayed; makes it more interesting.

If all other things equal, of course I’d go for .edu link over .com link.

However, I think their importance is GREATLY overrated.

Agree to disagree?

Neil November 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm

Hi Ana,

I think you give some very sound advice. I agree with the comments about forums however I think they still can be useful in terms of getting an article indexed (ezinearticles) and in having additional anchor text.

Neil

Jenn Colgan ( October 23, 2011 at 8:49 am

Hi Ana,

I have an online retail business, and I have started a blog, but its separate from my retail website. Do you have specific help for someone like me? My current e-commerce website provider does not have the option to add a blog to the retail website, so I started my blog on blogger. How do I get the blog going so that the traffic ultimately ends up on my retail site?? My gut tells me if I write good content that ultimately visitors will check out my retail site as a result?

Ana Hoffman October 24, 2011 at 6:53 am

As a rule, it’s always best to have your main website and blog combined – that way you increase the chances of other people checking it out, Jenn, and it’s great for SEO.

I don’t have any specific tutorials to help you; you need more of one-one-one kind of help.

Writing good content is never enough in and of its own. You still need to drive traffic to it and you still need to encourage people to click over to your site.

Jenn Colgan October 24, 2011 at 6:59 am

Thanks for the reply, Ana. Do you know of any articles that suggest ways to get people to click over to a retail site from a blog, without being overly “sales pitchy”?

Ana Hoffman October 24, 2011 at 9:51 am

I don’t think this is the kind of thing where “one size fits all”, Jenn.

Most bloggers will tell you that you need a call to action. What does that look like? You’ll have to see what works for you and your readers.

Gary Hamilton October 19, 2011 at 11:17 pm

Hi Ana,

Just found your blog and find it interesting. Although, you post this several months ago, i noticed that up to now, a lot still find it interesting including myself.

I agree with you on your link building plan (maybe you are still doing it). Most of it are all effective in link building since i am doing it as well.

I agree with you also on .edu/.gov links, its such a waste of time since its really difficult to get your comments approve. I like your appropriate phrase – “Too much work and doubtful results.”

Great post by the way!

-Gary-

Ana Hoffman October 20, 2011 at 4:36 am

Thanks for the kind words, Gary.

Yes, I believe in working smart, not hard!

Salah Messaoud October 17, 2011 at 2:17 pm

Hey Ana I really enjoyed reading about your link building strategy and I came to this article
through your guide that I got from this page Get Free Report
again thanks for the report Ana I really enjoyed reading it

Bethany October 11, 2011 at 8:09 pm

Hey Ana, got a question. Not sure if I’m doing this right and I THINK I read it in this article. In any case, I was doing a google search to try and find high PR blog posts to comment on. I have the SEOQuake plugin which tells me the PR of each result so I was hoping to just scan the results and make a list of the pages I want to post on. I set my default results to 50, did a search for my keyword and then switched it to blogs. Google keeps thinking I’m sending automated queries and is either blocking me or making it so the plugins are not pulling PR. So it’s not really working – is there a better way to do this? I even turned off every component of SEOQuake that it returns except the PR thinking that might be fewer queries and it still happens.

Ana Hoffman October 12, 2011 at 6:47 am

There’s a simple explanation for this, Bethany.

Google recently change the URL that fed all the tools. So everyone’s tools stopped working last week and had a lot of us scrambling because it looked like PageRank had disappeared.

From what I can see, SEOQuake still hasn’t fixed theirs.

Bethany October 12, 2011 at 9:37 am

Hey Ana,

Actually I had already fixed that problem by changing the retrieval URL within the settings of the plugin, though I can say it was pretty annoying that they did that! Both of the plugins I use were affected but I had fixed them both last week.

The issue yesterday was actually affecting both SEOQuake and the SEO Status Pagerank/Alexa toolbar that I use. After about an hour, I’d start seeing PR again. It’s really bizarre. I’ve switched it back to only 10 results at a time and tested it this morning and it’s still reporting PR so the only thing I can think of is that having it set to 50 results at a time was too much. I’d read somewhere, can’t remember if it was here or somewhere else, to set the default to 100 results which makes sense if you are going to re-sort the results by PR but I think that’s what got me blocked.

Ana Hoffman October 12, 2011 at 7:40 pm

You got me intrigued, Bethany.

I had no idea you can change retrieval URL – I thought this was something that had to be fixed on their end.

How did you do it?

Bethany October 12, 2011 at 8:14 pm

Yeah all they did was change the URL by a tiny tiny bit, so you have to go into the SEOQuake settings and fix it.

Ana Hoffman October 14, 2011 at 9:46 am

Thanks to you, mine is working again, Bethany!

Haroun Kola September 26, 2011 at 6:20 am

I’m alive. Great article Ana. Guest posting is something I haven’t yet started doing, and I think I will spend some time doing so in future.

Ana Hoffman September 26, 2011 at 7:46 am

It’s one of the best tactics for both link building and traffic generation, Haroun.

Maria September 13, 2011 at 5:16 pm

I know lots of people who used to play clean while others used to play dirty when it comes to link building process. Either way, an individual must be ready for any consequences he/she might face in the future. Anyway, effective strategies may differ from individuals so there’s no standard format for any link building strategies.

Aurelia September 3, 2011 at 2:53 am

I agree with you that spun articles are total crap. Interesting article, considering it was written pre-Panda… you make a lot of great points that are still valid even after the update.

I’d love to see any kind of ‘form’ letter you usually send out when asking for a guest spot in someone’s blog. I know you probably tailor such an inquiry to each different website, but I’m curious to know how you go about approaching people in general, without looking spammy.

Ana Hoffman September 3, 2011 at 9:36 am

Most blogs have guest posting forms on their blogs, Aurelia, which makes it very easy to submit a post.

If a blog doesn’t post guidelines for guest posting, but you can see that they accept posts from other bloggers, then simply use the contact form to inquire about the guidelines.

Guest posting is something entirely acceptable these days, so you shouldn’t have a problem finding blogs to guest post for.

Gustav August 30, 2011 at 8:02 am

I really enjoy reading your posts and also the comments to it. I’m currently working on a program of back linking for several of my sites and tried the UAW $67.00 a month program, plus the cost of a copy writer who was experienced in writing the 3 articles in their format. I was in for 3 months and by accident one evening, I found a link to one of their spun articles. It was so bad I had a problem understanding the topic of the article. YUK! I logged in to UAW and immediately cancelled the subscription. I’ve been leery of any type of spun articles since then. I’m working on a Yahoo Pipe for RSS today and need to figure that out. I wonder how long it will be until Google decides these methods are done and wants something else???

Ana Hoffman August 30, 2011 at 8:18 am

I have seen those articles – they are all over the web! Spun articles are terrible unless they are all edited properly. It is best to use a copy writer who can “manually” spin the articles and it will also work out cheaper than the monthly subscription.

Let us know how it goes.

Mike August 26, 2011 at 1:02 am

Great site Ana. I started a site recently and thought I was doing what everyone did when I subscribed to an up-sell for a link building service. After 2 weeks I canceled that service because I started to learn more about link building and the idea didn’t sit right with me, nor did the fee. So it was reassuring to read your post on link building and wish I had found your site sooner.

One thing though, by having used a link building service for only a few weeks, do search engines blacklist people who use these services, and is the blacklisting permanent? I’m paranoid about stuff like that and think that their gonna get me.

Cheers. Mike

Ana Hoffman August 26, 2011 at 9:51 am

No, don’t worry about it, Mike.

You might’ve had a little spike in your link building, but nothing will most likely ever come out of it.

I used all sorts of link building, but my site is mature and it can take many links coming for different directions. Smaller or newer sites might have to be much more careful with their link building.

Focus on quality and you have nothing to worry about.

Mike August 26, 2011 at 1:43 pm

Awesome. Thanks for putting my mind at ease.

Marcus August 22, 2011 at 2:30 pm

I tend to agree with you on not wasting your time on low quality links. At my previous job, whom I will keep anonymous, we used every SEO software known to man from SEnuke to all the edwinsoft software. To be honest it really worked for their niche. They are ranking in the top spots for high search volume keywords. I’m keeping an eye out on their rankings to see when google catches on, and im sure they will. I do what you say at my current job focusing on guest posts and getting relevant links through a social network called linkdip. Thanks for the post!

Ana August 23, 2011 at 7:15 am

Since for us, bloggers, time is of the essence, we definitely need to focus on what has the most impact.

AstroGremlin August 21, 2011 at 6:05 pm

I’m not here building links, Ana, but it never hurts. :) I really love your site. Your writing has a fine polish, warmth, and real depth of content. Are you sure you are from the former Soviet Union? Your command of the English language is impressive. In any case, my blog below today acknowledges a tip I found here. It has a picture of a cow! Sincerely appreciative of your work here.

Ana August 21, 2011 at 9:03 pm

Much appreciated, Astro.

Bob Ramanousky August 8, 2011 at 8:01 pm

Hi Ana,
I stumbled upon your site and it is really obvious that you know your stuff. I have learned alot from your site. This is an amazing source of information. I also agree that it is quality over quantity when it comes to links. I was debating this with someone else the other day also so it is interesting that I came across this article.

Well, thanks and I look forward to reading much more of your information.

Bob

Ana August 9, 2011 at 10:43 am

Thanks, Bob. I hope my article helps your debate and welcome.

Adam W. Prillis August 7, 2011 at 2:46 am

Ana, so what would you say about strategy for example I will be guest blogging on some authority sites and I will then promote these guest blog posts through systems like UAW or with Article Marketing Robot, what do you say?

Regards, Adam

Ana August 8, 2011 at 11:24 am

I’d say that if you can’t rank your own site using those tools, you won’t be able to rank your guest post either. That’s the only point of using auto spinning tools like that, since they really don’t bring a cinch of traffic.

Plus spamming the blog that published your guest post with a bunch of useless links might not be the greatest way to build relationships with the said bloggers.

AH August 1, 2011 at 1:54 am

Nice article, I noticed how you get to the point where a blogger told you to stop spinning articles and then your page went up? Are you saying it went up as a result of just stopping spinning articles or it went up because you switched to using the ‘What Links Are Nice’ approach? As I don’t wish to fall into similar pitfalls, but that particular part isn’t completely clear on what you did to then get back to Page 1?

Are you also saying that if Google starts seeing you as a spammer there is potential to change that around? As I figured if you were seen as taking a black hat approach you would be ‘blacklisted’ to some extent?

Insightful article though

AH
Skeleton Productions

Ana August 2, 2011 at 8:35 pm

In this particular case, all I did was stop spinning and my page went back up.

Since I wrote this post, I had some of my blogger friends stop spinning articles as well for the same reasons.

Going down in rankings is not the same as being blacklisted in any way. It’s definitely possible to go back up without a problem after changing your linking strategy.

Tom from Transcription Place July 21, 2011 at 8:06 pm

Wow, one more brand new thing I have learned from you today. You mentioned that you are commenting to get quality links to individual posts. I have always thought that it makes much more sense to create many links to the main site or blog page. Don’t you spread your efforts thin if you link back to many blog posts?
And sorry for violating your comment policy earlier.

Ana July 22, 2011 at 11:32 am

Hi Tom. I don’t link back to all the posts at once. I will choose one of two to focus on for a week or a month at a time. In that way, I concentrate my efforts only on those particular posts which I wish to drive traffic too.

Tom July 22, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Thank you Ana, it is a great idea! I appreciate your quick response.

Damon July 31, 2011 at 11:23 pm

Hello Tom,
I was recently watching a white board friday that Rand from seomoz did back in March and he was saying that you shouldn’t really pay much attention to the home page PR. It is really more about overall domain authority.

What Ana is doing by linking back to her individual posts, she is more evenly raising her overall domain authority and not just the PR of her home page.

We like to say my site is a pr3 or pr4, but that is really not true. What we should be saying is my home page is a pr4. I would rather have a do follow link from a pr2 page with a site that has a pr3 home page, than a link on a page with no pr from a site that has a pr5 home page.

I think linking directly to posts that are optimized for your key words are a great way to get to the top of google because most people don’t do it and sometimes, five or 10 good links pointing directly to an individual post with your anchor text is all you need to get to the top.

Chris July 19, 2011 at 8:50 pm

I really appreciate your input as I’ve debated this topic many times (and still do). I just keep playing the scenarios in my head about quality vs. quantity. I’m mostly a “quality” type of guy.
I’m with you John Lee. After working a full 40 hour/week day job and then doing SEO for your own website on the side can be a daunting task. I’m glad to have Ana’s awesome articles to help me out.

Ana July 20, 2011 at 9:24 am

You’re most welcome, Chris. It is a daunting task and quality is certainly very important.

Kilovars June 19, 2011 at 9:37 pm

We have a niche that is so highly specialized, I am not really sure how to get to the blogs or anything. We do electrical testing, working with electrical engineers and such. It sounds like it would be easy, just find all the electrical blogs but I am having a very difficult time with this. Any ideas, I would appreciate it. Thanks for your great article.

Ana June 20, 2011 at 3:11 am

Have you tried Google Alerts? You can set up an alert for “electrical” and other related topics. Also, don’t only stick to your main niche, but with related topics. I can imagine it is a field with not that many blogs, but you should think about your clients’ fields, such as hardware, DIY and such. Hope this helps.

Jean-Marie - web marketing PME April 29, 2011 at 2:47 am

Hi Ana, and thanks for the article.
I just wanted to comment on the part where you stopped using UAW.
You said that when you stopped submitting the articles, your site climbed back up? That is most probably the Google dance as Garen said, because the links are/were still there and Google most probably kept finding them after you stopped submitting? How much time did you invest, and how many links did you get from UAW? How old is that particular domain name and what was its link profile before the UAW blasts?

Ana April 29, 2011 at 5:04 am

Hi, Jean-Marie – as I answered to Garen, we all have our own opinions on this. My “experiment” lasted over 3 months and the evidence speaks volumes to me.

On the other hand, my friend Alex Whalley just did a 30-day challenge testing UAW; I am publishing a link to his finding in today’s post. He is optimistic, but I don’t see any great results yet.

Ana

zammax April 7, 2011 at 7:57 am

I agree with you Ana.. I know I have wasted my time by submitting spun articles to many directories and blogs.. Finally I stop doing that and focus on commenting, links between my owns blogs or friends..

Ana April 9, 2011 at 8:53 pm

Best way to go!

Ana Carter April 6, 2011 at 1:53 pm

Hi Ana

What a fantastic blog! I find mysel coming back here everytime you send me an email. Leaning a lot.
Ana

Ana April 9, 2011 at 8:52 pm

You are so welcome, Ana, and thanks for coming by!

Ana

Larry February 21, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Great post Ana! Just stumbled onto your blog and can’t wait to read more!

Larry

Ana April 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm

Welcome, Larry.

Johnny Speiermann February 19, 2011 at 6:15 am

I agree that the way to go is spending time on a few high quality links and then a lot of time on writing linkable content.

Diversity is an important factor in creating a natural link building pattern. you cannot control the quality or quantity of links to great content, but it’s not that important as long as people link. You write that you try to get 10 links for each important post, but I think it will look suspicious to Google if noone else links, and all your posts have more or less the same number of ingoing links.

I am currently co-owner of two webshops that we are closing down. But, boy do you learn a lot from running a shop. Instead of our current shops we will be starting a new shop in a more competitive segment where the competitors have between 100,000 and 700,000 links. Even with this big difference in links they seem to have equal popularity with Google on a number of keywords, so quantity is definitely not the primary goal. So, I guess getting high quality links manually and setting up some link bait for quantity will be my goal for the new shop. I know for sure that I am not going to try to get x00,000 links manually :-)

Ana April 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm

Quality will definitely trump quality any day, Johnny.

And no, it won’t look suspicious to Google if you start building links steadily on a daily basis, whatever the reasonable number might be for you.

All the best to your new endeavor!

Garen January 31, 2011 at 11:37 pm

Hey Ana,

Do you think that the test with UAW could have been a Google dance. Maybe, discrediting the links for a bit just to see if they stick. Then when you quit and Google gave you the green light, because the links were still there.

I always build my links in so many ways there is no footprint at all. I also think that slow and steady will bring you to the tops of Google. Maybe Google has combated spam However, if you build to quickly I have noticed a drop in rankings for awhile, too.

Lastly, I focus on the most unique content and use forums just to find out what people want to know, along with Yahoo Answers. I use IBP to make sure my content is about the same size as the top 10 in Google. But, I make it better :)

Garen

Ana February 3, 2011 at 7:06 am

All very good points, Garen.

I don’t think that was the case though. I do my link building similar to yours and when I do it by hand, I always focus on quality links from quality sites and build them slowly, but steadily.

UAW was the only exception to the rule and to be quite honest with you, the problem was not so much in the quantity, but rather quality of links.

So when push comes to shove, I am still not convinced that UAW is worth its salt and would stay away from it.

Garen February 3, 2011 at 9:40 am

Personally, I never tried UAW and honestly if I am going to do it; I just pay people who use the software. That way I don’t pay monthly.

I think what a lot of people don’t quite understand when starting SEO is your links get stronger the longer they link to you. Nothing is instant and their isn’t any majic system that will take you to the op of Google without a substantial amount of work.

Ana April 25, 2011 at 6:03 am

Garen, you are absolutely right. It takes work (smart, not too hard) and there are many free ways to do this.

Peter March 26, 2012 at 10:14 pm

Hi Ana,

So, you say that you stopped doing UAW and the site came back NOT to spot 10 where it was initially b4 the test BUT to spot 3? That seems to be the UAW’s merit – it promoted you eventually, no?

I was doing UAW campains back in 2010, when Panda was a regular anonymous indian and UAW was credited by everyone and G wasn’t that angry at text spinning. And always I saw same pattern – fall in SERP (dance actually, not penalty) then stop campain -> climb the SERP ladder.

That said, I think that currently dumb spinning is not the way to go. Text must be spun more cleverly, more work to do.

As to the common advices that you (and bunch of other johnchows) provide – to make linkbaits… Think it just doesn’t work in micro niches where ppl just enter the article -> read how to cure their back pain (for example) -> leave the page to do it. They have no time engaging and socializing.

Engaging, linkbaiting, socializing is the stuff that ONLY you (marketers) do with each other. There is no chance one can bait links on other niche blogs – only heavy self promo.

BTW, can you tell me the difference between backlink in epic guestpost and paid editorial backlink in epic post?

Ana Hoffman March 28, 2012 at 9:57 am

I see your point, Peter, and of course, we can debate the issue till we are blue in the face, and we’ll still end up holding on to our original opinions.

So we are not going to do that, right?

I agree with your take on micro niche sites, assuming we are talking about the ones that are built to rank and collect AdSense cash or some affiliate sales. I don’t build those kinds of site and neither do I offer any advice on how to milk them for all their worth.

However, engaging, linkbaiting, etc. DOES work on niche blogs. Say a cooking blog, short story blog, gardening blog – all these are examples of blogs my readers run and were able to increase their readership and sales by using the same techniques as I use for my blog.

The difference between a link in a guest post and a paid link in the same post is “nofollow” attribute. Google requires us to add “nofollow” to all paid links or else. And most bloggers who are worth their salt know that and would never jeopardize their blogs in exchange for a few bucks for a paid link.

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