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Trackbacks vs Pingbacks Explained: Why You Should Definitely Read This Post

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trackbacks vs pingbacksSome of you might know what trackbacks and pingbacks are, some of you might THINK you know, but all of you might wonder why is this so important for me to write a whole post about.

And I will get to that… later.

For now, let me quickly tell you what trackbacks and pingbacks are.

Essentially, they both are ways for blogs to communicate with each other.

Because of the kind of technology trackbacks use, they are much more prone to spam than pingbacks.

What Are Trackbacks And Pingbacks?

Let me show you an example of a legitimate pingback.

1.  This is what it looks like in my pending comments (click to enlarge).

legitimate trackback image

2. When I click on it, it goes to Tia’s BizChicksBlog post, where I see that she linked to one of my posts via a hyperlink.

trackback with hyperlink

3. This is what the pingback looks like after I approve it – it will show up in the comment section all the way at the bottom.

approved pingback image

Now here’s the important part of using pingbacks: you don’t have to do a thing to use them.

WordPress does all the work for you (assuming you are on WordPress platform, of course).

If you link to other WordPress sites in any blog post, they’ll be notified automatically using pingbacks, no other action necessary.

Your blog will tell their blog that you hyperlinked to their post. Their blog in turn will come back to your blog – automatically of course – and VERIFY that such a hyperlink indeed exists.

That verification process is what makes pingbacks a much better option over trackbacks and that’s what WordPress automatically uses.

Now, let’s take a look at the other side of the coin: spam trackbacks.

1. This is what they look like in my pending comments (click to enlarge).

spam trackbacks image

2. This is what one of those sites looks like when I click on the trackback link (their link to my blog is highlighted in yellow – click to enlarge).

spam blog image

This is what is referred to as a spam blog or splog.

What makes a splog a splog?

  • they provide no content and no value
  • their sole purpose is to earn money via AdSense, etc. or build links for a primary site of sorts
  • non-existent traffic, comments, or any other evidence of user engagement – after all, that’s not what they are for.

3. If I were to approve this spammy trackback, I would end up with this kind of link as part of my comment section:

spam trackback my blog

You can see right away that it doesn’t make much sense, unlike the previous example with the legitimate pingback.

What’s the point?

So far I’ve given you a bunch of education on pingbacks and trackbacks. It might or might not make much sense to you and I understand that. To be quite honest, I am not completely in the clear on the issue myself.

And that’s OK.

As a blogger, the ONLY THING you need to learn out of this is what a splog is, what it looks like, and the fact that you should NEVER-EVER approve such trackbacks.

What’s the Big Problem with Spam Trackbacks?

Once approved, trackbacks and pingbacks provide links FROM your blog TO their blog.

Whether you know much about link building or not, you need to know at least this: you will never be penalized for the kind of links that are coming to your site (you just won’t rank well), but you MIGHT be penalized by Google for the outgoing links from your site, since they are completely under your control.

If you are hungry for comments as social proof, you might be tempted to approve a spam trackback or two or even a whole bunch of them just to get rid of the dead silence on your blog – “Hey, look at that, somebody actually links to me – they must really like me!”

Really bad idea.

So learn what splogs look like and stay away from them altogether.

Learn more about link building:

How To Use Trackbacks for Traffic Generation

Now on to the fun part.

There are ways you can use legitimate trackbacks to your advantage (notice, I use the words “trackback” and “pingback” interchangeably here – because as long as they are legit, who cares what they are called!)

Notice how I linked to Tia’s blog above?

When she sees my trackback in her pending comments queue, she will most likely come back to this post and maybe even leave me a comment (won’t you, Tia? :) ).

Once she approves the trackback, her readers will see it as well and might come back and check out my blog.

So….

TRACKBACKS = TRAFFIC

Now imagine you write a post with 5 trackbacks to 5 different blogs? Or 10? You see my point.

This is a great way to spark an interest among bloggers who might otherwise never have a reason to come to your blog.

Learn about more ways to generate traffic:

Trackback Traffic Generation Tip You Must Use

I noticed that many bloggers use trackbacks incorrectly.

Many of you mention other blogs and bloggers on your sites, but when you link to them, you link to THEIR HOME PAGE.

BIG mistake!

Home page doesn’t have comments, so those trackbacks have no way of showing up in their comment queue. That basically means they will most likely never know you linked to them.

Solution: ALWAYS link to a post. Any post.

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James Byrd December 7, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Hello Ana,
I just wanted to thank for an outstanding explanation of ping backs and track backs. At this time i am blocking all track backs on my blog. I notice i have some that go back to a real blog…should i approve those is that link to a post only? Thanks for all you do!

James

Ana Hoffman December 10, 2012 at 10:41 pm

Don’t approve them, James; just visit that blog to thank them and delete the pingback.

Stephan December 6, 2012 at 9:35 pm

OK. Last questions. I promise. (Well, for now.)
The Simple Trackback Validation plug-in shows a warning it hasn’t been updated in more than 2 years. Is it still good to go?
Both plug-ins are only for self-hosted WP, right? Is there anything a WP.com user can do?
One more time, thanks so much!

Ana Hoffman December 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm

I’ll start charging you after this one, Stephan. LOL

Yes, it’s fine; I’ve used it for quite a while and had no trouble.

Stephan December 11, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Thanks! I appreciate all your answers.

Any ideas on how to control the spammy ones on wp.com?

Wait – I’ll owe you for that one. Maybe we can work out an in-kind deal. LOL

Ana Hoffman December 12, 2012 at 11:31 pm

From what I know, you can’t install any plugins at wp.com – that’s the downside of going free.

Stephan December 6, 2012 at 9:30 pm

When I read (and re-read) your post, what I took away was, basically, trackbacks/pingbacks are a good thing when they are from legitimate sources. So, check each one for legitimacy; if so, thank them, then approve it; if not, disapprove it.
Then I read the comments and I got a different message: check each one for legitimacy; if so, thank them. Then delete the tb/pb. (Of course, deleting all non-legit ones.) And, the thank-you is really just a courtesy if you have the time to do so. Install those two plug-ins and that should filter out most of the junk for you, enabling you to have the time to check out the legit ones, thank them, and create more connections/relationships.
Am I getting the right message from the comments?
If so, then going back to my original question about why the course instructor disabled the options in WP.com: if you would never approve any, why allow them in the first place? (I’m guessing simply to be aware of them and to spark up a conversation/connection with that other author.)
Thanks again!

Ana Hoffman December 10, 2012 at 10:27 pm

That’s true, Stephan – I only use pingback notifications to go back to the originating blog to thank them for the mention (a courtesy, as well as a good networking step). Once I do that, I delete the pingback and never publish it on my blog.

The logic behind it:

When someone links to you, it’s great for SEO.

If you publish the pingback for that link, it’s as if you are linking right back to them.

That takes away any SEO benefit.

Stephan December 6, 2012 at 9:06 pm

Wow! Great explanation, Ana. I’m just starting to set things up and was using a Lynda.com course to get a quick tutorial on WP.com, but the instructor pretty much skipped over this part and I thought it was probably important. I’m glad I found this post!
In the tutorial, he unchecked the option to even allow pingbacks and trackbacks. Perhaps it was just because he was using the post for the tutorial, but I cannot imagine why one would wish to turn off that valuable feature. Am I missing something there?
Thanks again.

Ana Hoffman December 10, 2012 at 10:24 pm

I wouldn’t completely turn it off, Stephan; you still want to be notified when another solid blog links to you. Once you know how to control the spammy ones, there’s no need to turn them off.

Rodney Goldston December 5, 2012 at 10:28 am

Just thought of a question. If I write a post and within that post link to another post on my site I get a message in my comments section that there is a ping back for approval. Is this the correct way to link to other post within your own blog? And should I approve the ping back? What happens if you don’t approve a ping back?

Ana Hoffman December 5, 2012 at 10:05 pm

There’s no reason to approve self-pings, Rodney.

Hard to explain why without turning this comment into a post; just trust me.

Rodney Goldston December 5, 2012 at 6:01 am

I’m simply echoing the sentiments already expressed…thank you for clearing this up. I use a self hosted version of Wordpress and I just click the spam button in the comments approval section. I’ve gotten a few legit comments (emphasis on few). Question: What do you think about Akismit as a spam blocker? I’ve been considering getting a paid subscription. Thanks again.

Ana Hoffman December 5, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Harry December 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Thank you. Thank you. I am getting trackbacks and have nearly 566 in my box. Thanks for the info. This is great info.

Ana Hoffman December 4, 2012 at 9:23 pm

You are very welcome, Harry.

Andy November 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm

Great post Ana, trackbacks and pingbacks confused the hell out of me but I can now see the difference but I think the real good advice is simply not to approve any of them .. so that is now my policy… Keep up the good work, this is the blog I come back to regularly for traffic tips, advice and general guidance!!

Jesse November 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm

Thank you for this pingback and trackback info – I want to pretend that I understand,,,, but not yet – My blog gets hit so many times I need to be more savvy as to what to do….
Jesse.

Ana Hoffman November 12, 2012 at 9:18 am

If you follow that steps I suggested, Jesse, your spam should go down considerably.

Matthew Lee October 30, 2012 at 9:03 am

Thanks for this article Ana. I get this question upon occasion from clients and to be entirely honest, I never was 100% clear on it myself. Despite having read the definition repeatedly. Thanks again!

Ana Hoffman October 30, 2012 at 9:32 pm

You are very welcome, Matthew.

Justin Young October 26, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Thank you Ana for clearing up this very confusing topic of pingbacks and trackbacks. I have read several different posts about this topic and this one is by far the least confusing.

I am always hesitant to approve pingbacks but I feel obligated if they are coming from a reputable source. Leaving a comment on their blog post and thanking them for the referral instead is a great way to avoid the obligation and having to link back to their site. Thanks.

carolm October 26, 2012 at 4:17 am

I thought I had understood your article until I read one of your answers to a comment. You say you would
1. See if any of the pingbacks you get are legitimate links to your content. Go over to that blog, thank them for the mention, then come back to yours and DELETE the pingback.
2. DELETE all other pingbacks.
3. Don’t approve any of them.

Do you mean that even for legit pingbacks, you thank the person at their site, and then come back to your own site and delete that pingback on your own site?

Is that even possible? If you have made the hyperlink from your site to their site, that would show up as a pingback on their site. OK, but you wouldn’t have a pingback to delete on your own site would you? You would just have the hyperlink out from your site, not a pingback that you could delete?

Or….do you automatically get a reciprocal pingback from them when their site automatically checks your site to make sure the link is there?

I think the penny might have just dropped, but I’m still not sure.

Ana Hoffman October 26, 2012 at 9:30 am

So we are talking about THEM linking to YOUR site, Carol. That’s when you get a pingback notifying you that someone linked to your post.

It appears just like a regular comment in your moderation queque, right? You can approve it, trash it, or send it into spam.

If you were to approve it, then the link back to THEIR blos will show up in your comments. Essentially, it means that they linked to you and you, by publishing their pingback, will link right back to them. Makes sense?

There’s no need for reciprocal linking like that. Might wipe out all the SEO benefits from them linking to you to begin with.

That’s why I never approve any pingbacks.

carolm October 26, 2012 at 5:46 pm

I have an example that I’m thinking about to sort this out in my head:
I sometimes get a pingback from someone using Related links software – the other person uses that software to scan the internet and it gives that person 10 related topics that that other person then publishes at the end of their article – but only when you/I/their readers mouse over the text in their post: ‘Related Links’.

I usually check them out, (and discover that this is a Related Links pingback), and I don’t publish their pingback at my end.

I believe that means they still have a link to my site via their related links, but nothing goes from me in the other direction, to the other person’s site. So, I MIGHT get some traffic from them, but I’m not ‘giving them’ anything back by way of endorsement from my site.

If I think about this the other way round, for when it’s me that is linking out of my site TO someone else’s article:

Suppose I give a rave review in my post to someone and add a hyperlink to their article from mine. They will get a pingback from me. Then they will come to my site to see if I’m legit (I am…mostly).

That MIGHT be all that I get: one visit from one person. And THEY will get traffic from anyone at my site who clicks on the hyperlink I made in my article.

IF they decide to approve my pingback, a link to my blog will appear below their Comments section. That might be worth something for increasing a few visitors to me, from them.

If that pingback is a nofollow link, I won’t get any street cred for that pingback link to me, in the eyes of Google. So why is that different to an ordinary Comment I make at their site with it’s link back to me – which are usually nofollow, unless they are lovely commentluv people.

And…..I still don’t have a pingback FROM them into my Dashboard Comments section, that I could choose to publish so it appears on my site, but according to you, I should delete.

Where/how do I get that pingback back FROM a legit person by sending them one.

This is really hurting my brain! I think that’s probably a good thing.

carolm October 26, 2012 at 6:16 pm

The real think I don’t ‘get’ is where you say there is value to me in hyperlinking out to authority blogs in my articles:

i.e where is the value to me of writing a post with 5-10 hyperlinks to other people – apart from getting their attention, and getting my name out there?

Of course that is worth something, but it won’t have a direct boost on my traffic numbers back to me, or impress Google in any way, will it?

If they follow your advice and delete all pingbacks anyway, my pingback (from me to them), won’t show up on their website at all, either.

I really hope you don’t get fed up with me pestering you like this!

Ana Hoffman October 28, 2012 at 6:19 pm

All great questions, Carol.

You need to link out for several reasons, namely:

1. You network with other bloggers. They notice you, come to your blog, like your content, and mention you next time they blog on the topic. =Traffic back to you.
2. Google does care about outgoing links. All reputable sites link to other relevant sources. Spam sites don’t. They link within their own networks. So Google does perceive links out as an indicator that they are looking at a quality site.
3. It’s good to give your readers additional resources.

Ana Hoffman October 28, 2012 at 6:15 pm

You get a pingback ONLY when there’s a link in the post body, Carol. That’s one of the reasons those Related Links trackbacks are not real trackbacks, since they are not in-content links.

If anyone links to you from a comment (like is the case when someone publishes your pingback TO them – it’s treated like a commet for all intents and purposes), you don’t get a pingback from them.

In other words, you’ll never know that someone published your pingback unless you go to that blog and physically check it.

carolm October 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm

Thanks Ana,
I have always found links/backlinks/trackbacks/pingbacks confusing, but I think I’ve finally ‘got it’. I’m putting this new info to use on my own blog.

Carol

Ana Hoffman October 28, 2012 at 10:48 pm

You are so welcome, Carol.

Left a comment on your post; I am truly flattered! Hope it doesn’t land in your spam folder.

carolm October 28, 2012 at 11:35 pm

It did land in my Spam Folder!
I’ve been trusting Akismet (mostly), but I’m going to have to check out what they get up to a bit more closely.

Joseph October 21, 2012 at 12:27 am

Thanks Ana for your insight into these things which I still find slightly confusing :( This is because I have many trackbacks and pingbacks and don’t know what to do with them. Are you suggesting that I check out from which site they came and then approve or otherwise? And is a pingback safer than a trackback or the other way round? Please clarify this small dilemma I have!

Ana Hoffman October 23, 2012 at 10:00 am

I think I need to update this post a bit, Joseph – all good questions.

I would:

1. See if any of the pingbacks you get are legitimate links to your content. Go over to that blog, thank them for the mention, then come back to yours and DELETE the pingback.
2. DELETE all other pingbacks.
3. Don’t approve any of them.

Joseph October 23, 2012 at 10:07 am

Thanks for your prompt reply. I was jsut about to start approving the pingbacks!! Do I do the same with trackbacks?

Ana Hoffman October 24, 2012 at 6:47 am

Yes, Joseph.

phill October 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Ok this was really great advice. I never knew this information about trackbacks and pingbacks. I started a new blog about a month ago and really focusing on content for my niche.

This is really great information and looking forward to learning from you.

You mentioned something about linking going out. I use sources in my posts, they usually link to other blogs I read or books I own and read…so something like Amazon…is this ok…

Ana Hoffman October 21, 2012 at 9:54 pm

Linking out is not only OK, but is to be expected for a reputable site, Phill; just make sure you link out to solid sites as well.

When adding affiliate links, just make sure they open in a new window and are nofollow.

Eliz C October 1, 2012 at 8:35 am

I’ve been trying to decide about approving or deleting my own trackbacks from onsite linking. It doesn’t seem like there is any reason to do so. I’ve already made the linking happen so no reason to double it. Plus I think it takes up too much room and muddies up the comment section of posts. Am I thinking right…or is it just too early in the morning for me?! :)

Ana Hoffman October 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm

I think you are on the right track, Eliz.

Eliz C October 2, 2012 at 8:33 am

Thanks Ana, I just needed a little confirmation about that.

Michael September 23, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Hello Ana,
My site is only about 5 months old, and just over the last few weeks I have started getting Track/Pingbacks arriving; at first 5 0r 6 a day, and now they are arriving in the hundreds every day, sometimes a thousand or so.
Some of them are from .edu sites which surprised me.
It’s possible some of them might be genuine but it would be impossible time-wise to go through them all, so I just delete them all in one go.
Is there no way of controlling this problem?
Regards,
Michael

Ana Hoffman September 24, 2012 at 12:05 pm

The only reason to go through pingbacks is to visit the legitimate originating sites and thank them for linking to you, Michael.

In either case, you should never publish them. I’d spend your time doing something more productive – most likely they are all spam.

Two things you should do:

1. Install GASP plugin.
2. Install Simple Trackback Validation.

Those two should take care of your problem.

Michael September 24, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Many thanks Ana,
I have to say I do enjoy your site, it’s like a breath of fresh air after most of the sites I have been on.
It proves you can make even the most daunting and somewhat mundane subjects interesting.
I look forward to getting acquainted with your site more intimately as time goes on.
Michael

Ana Hoffman September 24, 2012 at 8:32 pm

You are welcome, Michael, and thank you right back at you!

Michael October 31, 2012 at 2:12 am

Hi Ana,
After installing the ‘GASP’ plugin on your recommendation, the spam trackback/pingback barrage has finally ceased.
Thanks for the advice; the number of trackback/pingbacks coming into my site had reached over 12,000 a week – a real nightmare!
Please accept a cyber-hug from me.
Regards,
Michael

Ana Hoffman October 31, 2012 at 9:31 am

Hug right back at you, Michael; glad I could help.

David August 26, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Thanks for the quick guide. Your article ranks well for the search “what should you do with Pingbacks” – well done!

Ana Hoffman August 27, 2012 at 10:54 am

Thanks, David.

Gayan August 25, 2012 at 10:50 am

I was wondering about legitimate pingbacks. Should I approve them? Because if we approve them, they become 2-way backlinks and it may affect to the link value.

I’d love hear your opinion Ana!

I just read about disallowing trackbacks at Yoast.

Cheers,
Gayan
(could please spare a moment to send me an email once you reply to this comment)

Ana Hoffman August 25, 2012 at 4:42 pm

I don’t, Gayan.

Bill (LoneWolf) Nickerson July 30, 2012 at 7:30 am

For a while there was a robot somewhere that was posting fake trackbacks. They looked like trackbacks but there wasn’t a link at their site. I haven’t seen any of those lately, but I’m sure they’ll be back around sometime soon. 8=(

Thanks for the good explanation Ana!

Ana Hoffman July 30, 2012 at 2:31 pm

There still is, Bill – Digi Auto Links. Good thing Andy Bailey built in a special detector for such trackbacks in the spam-blocking GASP part of CommentLuv Premium.

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